Talk:List of tallest statues/Archive 2
Statues that need adding
[edit]Recent improvements to the table seem to have made adding items with visual editing unfeasible and I'm less proficient with source editing. I thought that for now I would make a note here of statues that I think need adding:
- This giant robot statue in a recently opened Chinese theme park is reportedly 174 feet tall, and I'd say it definitely looks it.
- https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/china/article-5023575/Spectacular-pictures-China-s-1-billion-VR-park.html
- This statue of Durga in Mauritius is reportedly 33 metres tall.
- https://rightlog [dot] in/2017/10/maa-durga-murti-mauritius-01/
SMcM (talk) 15:10, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Both statues may be candidates for inclusion but neither source is reliable. Also please put new posts at the bottom of the page. Thanks Robynthehode (talk) 17:29, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
- Apologies for putting this in the wrong place. I didn't post those articles here as sources, but to demonstrate what I was talking about- as opposed to just describing statues and providing no link. However personally I don't see why the Dail Mail is an unsatisfactory source in this context, we are hardly in the realm of 'fake news' here. Regardless the same facts can be found in many articles which can be found when you search 'Guizhou transformer statue', though a lot of these are citing the Dail Mail one and potentially the others have taken the information from it without recognising that. I think you can probably be too choosy about sources for a page like this where the facts aren't that well documented. I'm sure you could find worse sources on this page SMcM (talk) 13:30, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
Birth of the New World(estatua de colon)in Arecibo Puerto Rico Josean 13 (talk) 13:44, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Volgograd
[edit]The Volgograd Motherland statue is mentioned twice with differing heights. Can someone please choose the correct one and delete the other?12.214.172.85 11:08, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
The image "Approximate heights of various notable statues:" shows the Statue of liberty with plinth, and the Volgograd Motherland without plinth. In actual fact the Statue of Liberty is much smaller than Mother Russia. Rather misleading image Chuck Norris (talk) 17:03, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Another Statue
[edit]There is a 20m (66ft) Statue of Sam Houston in Huntsville, Tx that should be added to the list.
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Image:Sam_Houston_Huntsville_Statue.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.68.37.168 (talk) 17:46, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
There is also a 85 and a foot tall statue of a iron man in Chisholm Minnesota. It was built because of the history of the area, that is the iron range. It is the 3rd tallest free standing statue in the United States so we need it on the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.212.220 (talk) 07:08, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
- Neither of those statues are big enough to make the list. The Iron Man in Chisholm Minesota includes a an 11 metre statue that is part of a larger monument- 11 metres is far too small to make the list, there are many statues at that height. 30 metres, the current minimum height, is supposed to have been the height of the Colossus of Rhodes. In the modern day perhaps even this is too low a bar, as the list is already well over a hundred long and the number of giant statues is increasing rapidly. That 20 metre statue of Sam Houston is impressively tall in its own right, but its also not big enough to make the list. SMcM (talk) 19:31, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
I was in Japan a few weeks ago, and passed a city called Kaga-onsen in the Ishikawa Prefecture by train. There I got a glimpse of a huge statue (would estimate between 50-60m high). I only got one bad photo of the statue, and I cant seem to find many good ones, or much info about it on google either. But the statue is absolutley high enough to make the list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Svanainposition (talk • contribs) 00:03, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Two statues
[edit]One is in Volgograd and second is in Kiev (Ukraine). They share similar name. --Yonkie 18:35, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
Another Statue
[edit]The tallest Ganesha statue in the world is located in my home state. I can give free pictures too. http://theemerald.wordpress.com/2009/02/03/ganesha-tall-and-big/ My question would be, does it qualify? I do not know how the height is calculated -- Dandekar (talk) 06:09, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Bingling
[edit]Is there a typo in the caption for the Bingling statue? It says "Buddha of the Blingling temple, China" rest of the article refers to it as the Bingling temple (note the extra l in caption). DotCOMmie 00:14, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
The tallest Buddha?
[edit]Near Monywa city in Myanmar recently was constructed a Standing Buddha statue, that is claimed to be tallest or 2-tallest in the world. Although the inauguration ceremony still wasn't held (the works inside the statue were not finished yet, when I saw it June 2007), but it has already reached its final height of 130 m (115 m without the base). you can see more details here: http://www.myanmarplg.com/eng/Myanmar_News/myanmar_news.html#95 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.130.252.69 (talk) 22:46, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
The Spring Temple Buddha
[edit]I have searched the internet for hours now, but I can´t find a single website or image of the "Spring temple Buddha". No other site that lists the tallest statues, mention this one. The only picture I´ve seen of it is the satellite-photo. Can anyone tell where I can find regular photo´s of it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Svanainposition (talk • contribs) 23:00, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
There's some images of the statue in the page of the temple itself: http://zhai.fosss.org/goto_zy.asp?id=5421 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Royut (talk • contribs) 03:46, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
The statue of 53.46m is missing completely? --89.53.7.225 (talk) 17:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
- Added (with the height of the statue itself, 26,57 m). --89.53.7.225 (talk) 23:50, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Buddha statues
[edit]Why are they building all these massive Buddha statues? And now they are gonna build another gigantic one in Uttar Pradesh and even a few others in other parts of the world. I mean why? There aren't so many gigantic 50+ meter statues of Jesus or of any other person.
I'm simply curious about the reason behind building all those gigantic statues of Buddhas? Could you explain it to me in a paragraph right below this? Thx! --Topk (talk) 00:10, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
- In Buddhism, the making of Buddha-images is generally considered to create merit. Of course, they wouldn't necessarily need to be 50+ meters high! This aspect can be largely be explained in terms of competitiveness, and a desire for prestige and attention. For example, the Maitreya Project is intended to bring peace to Tibet; fulfull the wishes of the FPMT's lamas; attract attention and prestige for that organization; and not incidentally, be taller than China's Leshan Big Buddha. Chinese Buddhists, not to be outdone by Tibetans, have apparently just built a Vairocana statue that is even taller than the Maitreya Project's planned Maitreya. The same kind of behavior can also be observed with temple-construction. --Dawud —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.60.55.9 (talk) 00:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
Wikifying
[edit]For consistency, I'd wikify the table as follows:
- 1st column (name of statue): each name even if the statue has no article yet
- 2nd column (depicts): every occurrence, except the frequent "Buddha", "Jesus"
- 3rd column (location): all locations
- 4th column (country of location): none
-- User:Docu
About minimal height
[edit]20 m. has been mantained so far as the minimal height for this list since it's the lowest height range that can be fairly supported in an almost complete way. To put one or two statues below that for X-random reasons will break the flow of the list with "jumps" in the info since most probably, there will be no follow up with figures in the ranges of 19 m, 18 m, 17 m, etc..
And while the chosen height might seem arbitrary the list "must" have a limit somewhere and frankly statues below 20 m. turn inconsequential in a list where the principal function is to display the highest statues in the world, hence the name. There's no reason why should it be reduced to include just famous heritage sites or any other minor factor of discrimination since then the whole point of the list would be lost. There's already an article just named "List of Statues" (that can be found in the references of this article) that follows exclusively notoriety, historical and artistical importance as the listing factor.
In Wikipedia there's articles with lists of churches, stadiums, pyramids, hotels, palaces, etc., by height and then by country... sometimes even by city. And yet none of them canibalize over the main List of Buildings by Height. There's no reason why this List of Statues by Height should be any different.
Royut (talk) 05:18, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for putting up the issue on the talk page. The reasons that I have put up Bahubali statue on the list are not x-random reasons but valid reasons, which I expect that you may not be aware, so I am listing them down:-
- I will not talk of the heritage, antiquity, notability and the fame aspect. As you have pointed out – “principal function is to display the highest statues in the world” Now, this statue is the worlds tallest monolith statue and should be vital to any list of tallest statues. Now it seems odd and unjustified, if a limit of height is fixed in such manner to exclude the worlds tallest monolith statue from the list of tallest statues.
- I am sure there is nothing sacrosanct about the 20m limit. The limit can always be revised if such limit excludes something important and vital to the list. I suggest a limit of 50 feet.--Anish (talk) 07:29, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think that instead of lowering the minimal height acceptance to 50 ft and opening a can of worms (since it would be really hard to follow up figures of that height considering that we'll be bordering "acceptable height to make lots of fiberglass figures". It could be added a separate subsection (as the Disappeared and Planned ones) where statues are listed by distinction: tallest monolith statue, copper statue, gold statue, largest mass, etc.. Royut (talk) 14:12, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
This is one alternative view that can always be explored. But I don't think it will open a can of worms as a limit will be fixed. By being extra cautious we cannot deny the legitimate claim.--Anish (talk) 15:14, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'm still going with the subsection idea. It's the one that will not break the reliability of the list as it is and the more suited way to give the information.Royut (talk) 20:45, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
I am not inclined towards sub-section idea, though I am not rejecting it totally. Even if we agree to it, how do we go about it? How does adding it to the main list break the reliability. It's already there since last two days and not hampered its reliability. One suggestion. Let us wait and watch further, if the reliability is broken in near future and then we can think of further solution.--Anish (talk) 08:30, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
- By breaking reliability I mean that the list is now somehow saying that from the 20 m figures, the next one coming in size is the Gomateswara with 18 m. Something that is not true and shouldn't be the way for Wikipedia. Even more, reaching the 25m - 20m, the list goes almost half-meter to half-meter down... the jump in 2m is clearly visible to anyone paying attention and will look suspicious.
- Putting this, and other statues, under a banner of Special Mention or something, the same list is clear about the reasons for being included and pushes front their notoriety. Royut (talk) 13:24, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
If the inclusion is legitimate, then we should not be worried about difference being half a meter or 2 m or that it looks suspicious(?). The differerence with the last statue is not the criteria. Had anyone before tried to add any statue having height between 20m and 18m?--Anish (talk) 20:53, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
- The lowest statue currently on the list is not even 11 metres though, should this be removed?Halbared (talk) 13:20, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- My mistake, I see that there are quite a few in this 10-20 metre area.Halbared (talk) 13:22, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
- The lowest statue currently on the list is not even 11 metres though, should this be removed?Halbared (talk) 13:20, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
Material?
[edit]How about adding a column with the different materials used to build the individual statues? That would be relevant, in my opinion. — Lasse Havelund (p · t · c) 21:19, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
Deutsches Eck
[edit]It is 37 m high, should be added... Deutsches Eck 88.134.194.245 (talk) 20:54, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
- the Statue itself is only 14 m high —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.180.244.232 (talk) 08:02, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
National Monument to the Forefathers
[edit]Statue located in Plymouth, Massachusetts; stands at 81 ft (25 m). This would make it qualify for the list.
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Forefathers_Monument —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.67.193.12 (talk) 04:21, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
the statue itself is only 36 ft (<12 m). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.78.38.102 (talk) 18:25, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Hong Guang Shan Dafo
[edit]Anybody has more information about this buddha? Looks tall, but I cannot find any information about it (except in chinese). 43°52′52″N 87°36′49″E / 43.881145°N 87.613478°E
http://xinjiang.abang.com/od/jingdianxianlu/a/hongguangshan.htm and http://www.liecheng.com/lq/20080701-6776.html say its 38,8 m —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.143.84.48 (talk) 07:55, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
Location of Spring Temple Buddha
[edit]I have some doubts about the location of the Spring Temple Buddha. Perhaps there was confusion between Lushan, in the province of Henan, and Lu shan = Mount Lu (shan means mount in chinese), in the Jiangxi Province. The page http://zhai.fosss.org/goto_zy.asp?id=5421 should tell the exact location, but chinese is a language I don't know. This matter should be verified, the two locations are far from each other too. Greetings, --Gabodon (talk) 11:28, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
The Geo Tag points definitly to a Place in Henan, compare to [[1]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.34.234.219 (talk) 20:42, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Independence War Victory Column of Tallin
[edit]looks nice, but is probably no Statue. Should be deleted?
Worker and Kolkhoznitsa
[edit]It says in the list that it's in restoration. The monument has already been resored and was unveiled on top of its new pavillion on December 4th. Here's the current photo: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Worker_and_Kolkhoznitsa_2009.jpg --SergeiXXX (talk) 20:13, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Mount Rushmore
[edit]Shouldn't it be on the list and on top too? It's a statue made out of a damn mountain, surely it's among the tallest in the world?--SergeiXXX (talk) 21:54, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
Well it is on the list, but with the carvings height, 18m, not the entire mountains height. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.180.244.232 (talk) 07:49, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
African Renaissance Monument
[edit]Fairly sure this should be on here too http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/African_Renaissance_Monument
Valle de los Caidos, Spain
[edit]150M cross. Should be included? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.2.209.134 (talk) 07:28, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
There are some smaller statues at the bottom of the cross, which might be added, but not the cross itself with its 150m. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.143.84.48 (talk) 08:56, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
This statue has been moved and dublicated several times in the list now. The main article says it´s 29m heigh and 40.5m with pedestal, so we should put it in with 29m, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elmo78 (talk • contribs) 10:34, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
I removed the 40m double entry again today. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.180.244.232 (talk) 09:22, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
I removed th 40m double entry again today... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.143.84.48 (talk) 20:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
double Entry again... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.180.244.232 (talk) 06:41, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
Years later, this is still an ongoing concern. Unbelievable. For whoever keeps pushing for the total height to be counted for this entry, "the pedestal being an integral part of the monument" does not make it part of the statue. THE STATUE ITSELF IS 29 M TALL. This is not about which are the prettiest most meaningful monuments out there, is -as best as it can be made- a list about the pure simple cold fact of how tall the statues are. Come on, the list is already bit clouded with a fair number of ambiguity and unsourced details, lets try to not make it worse by purporsely misrepresenting the data we do know. Royut (talk) 07:55, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Iraq?
[edit]There was a Saddam Hussein statue destroyed, [2], and The Hands of Victory. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.109.98.44 (talk) 22:13, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
Sainte-Hospice
[edit]There's a 11 meters statue of the Virgin Mary at the Chapelle Sainte-Hospice in Saint-Jean-Cap-Ferrat :
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint-Jean-Cap-Ferrat#La_chapelle_Saint-Hospice
Picture :
loulan (talk) 00:59, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Highest statue?
[edit]It says here that the Hanuman of Shimla is the highest statue of the world (meaning, at the highest altitude). It doesn't make much sense to me, since obviously there are statues at higher altitudes; for example, the Christ the Redeemer of the Andes (3,832 metres above sea level), which is not in this list because it is not big enough, but it counts as a statue, doesn't it? Or consider Rongbuk Monastery in Tibet, which sits at 5,100 metres above sea level, and surely contains some statues of Buddha... I believe the original quote of the Indian press is that it is "the largest statue at the highest altitude", surpassing the Cristo Redentor of the Corcovado, but even that statement sounds arbitrary: where do you put the limit on statue size vs altitude? You could equally affirm that "the largest statue at the highest altitude" is the Spring Temple Buddha, since obviously there are no larger statues at any higher altitudes; or you could find out out which is the very highest place of the Tibet where there is a statue, no matter what size, and also say it is "the largest statue at the highest altitude"... El monty (talk) 14:30, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Some more. I guess this list could almost go on for ever...
[edit]http://www.kandou10.jp/en/spot/spot68_e03_3.html his Great Buddha was built by a businessman from Nagoya, Mr. Saikichi Yamada, in 1927. It commemorates the marriage of Emperor Showa. It is made of reinforced concrete and is 18.8m tall.
http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Gifu_Great_Buddha Height of Statue: 13.7 metres (44.9 ft) Weavehole (talk) 14:51, 28 November 2010 (UTC)weavehole
http://cavinglizsea.blogspot.com/2011/12/hanuman-statue-batu-caves.html This statue should be added as well; Hanuman status standing at 15 metres (50 feet) in Batu Caves, Gombak, Malaysia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.143.136.237 (talk) 14:55, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
a statue in venezuela "el diablo de yare"
[edit]Is a estatue in a theme park called "the venezuela de antier" in Merida state in Venezuela a think is between 15-20 mts tall check this links http://www.flickr.com/photos/donperucho/3118491992/ http://lh4.ggpht.com/_8maqNQX8ZZo/Rn8eCRb3hkI/AAAAAAAAAmI/Vxgg9JzkGU0/IM000103.JPG —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.210.126.38 (talk) 06:23, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
Bamiyan "destroyed by the Taliban"
[edit]That was the initial story. But there have been stories for some time now that the Pakistani ISI provided the heavy artillery and the demolitions experts and the Gatorade and whatever else was required.
Maybe the article should not be assigning blame for the time being.
Varlaam (talk) 20:16, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
Minotauro in Jerez
[edit]
Not appear Minotauro in Jerez de la Frontera; 22 m
This sculpture represents the Minotaur after her fighting with Theseus, defeated attempts to a desperate escape to the island of Crete. The giant sculpture is oriented to Crete
Takashi Kurita ~ Hablame compañero 13:25, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
Making the heights sortable.
[edit]Some genius, putdown all the heights and their conversions manually i.e. 40 m (132 ft)
. This causes the tables not to sort correctly by height. What they should have used is the {{ntsc}} template. It has this format: {{ntsc|62|m|ft|0|abbr=on}}
. I've fixed the over 40m table. If anyone has the time, could you fix the others.
Notre-Dame-de-la-Garde, Marseille
[edit]The statue atop the church stands 11.2 meters high. 108.254.160.23 (talk) 00:57, 27 January 2013 (UTC).
Why are some heights inclusive of pedestals, others not?
[edit]Some entries (like the Spring Temple Buddha) include the pedestal height in the total height column, while others (like the Statue of Liberty) do not. Can we get some consistency on this, or is there some reason that some statues include the pedestals and others don't? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.208.244.57 (talk) 15:47, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
World Biggest Marble Statue Of Shri Shirdi Sai Baba "7feet"
[edit]Worlds Biggest Marble Statue Of Shri Shirdi Sai Baba "7feet" Loacated At J.P Nagar 7th phase Bangalore 78------ INDIA..........more will be updated shorlty plz contact ----9686866299 for more.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaiguru6 (talk • contribs) 01:03, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
This, World's Largest Axe, might belong on this list. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 00:09, 16 April 2014 (UTC)
Statue of Nebuchadnezzar
[edit]Excepting for the story in the Bible, in the Book of Daniel, which is considered apocryphal for Bible Scholars, there's no evidence supporting that such a statue really existed. I think it should be removed, other case Wikipedia might seem partial to Christian or Jewish faith. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fausto.cervantes (talk • contribs) 18:19, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
- Agreed. I removed it. Thanks for noticing that. Rockypedia (talk) 23:32, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Marilyn Monroe statue
[edit]Forever Marilyn gives this statue's height as 26 ft (7.9 m). Since the cut seems to be 5 meters, this should be included. 82.141.117.146 (talk) 06:48, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
About the tallest
[edit]It says that the Spring Temple Buddha is 128 meters including the 20 meters lotus throne. Then in the second one which is the Laykyun Setkyar it says that it's 116 meters excluding the 13.5 meters throne, for the whole monument would be 130 meters. Shouldn't the Spring Temple Buddha be 108 meters, then? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bbbeto (talk • contribs) 22:47, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
Moai of Rapa Nui **** Antiquity, Medieval, Modern Categories?
[edit]These should definitely be on the list if anyone has the time to add them. Perhaps there should be an antiquity category? Medieval and modern? Busybeez (talk) 05:28, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
Request 'Height comparison of notable statues' image removal
[edit]Wiki header says its "list of statues by height, considering only the figure itself, without any pedestal or plinth included in the measurement." But the image shows statutes with pedestals (though arbitrarily not plinths). It gets the height of the Rodina statue wrong: image shows top of statue (the sword) to top of plinth at 91m when its really 85-87m (this article has it at 87m). Besides the biggest statue none from the rest of the top 10 are included as "notable"- in a list dominated by Buddhist and Hindu statues. Its seems to have been created for other articles (and is in any case erroneous- and should be looked into alteration/deletion elsewhere). Any objections? 100.1.46.6 (talk) 04:07, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
List is broken if you try to sort by 'completed'
[edit]Just wanted to let you guys know, since I'm not sure how to fix it. First two sections are fine, but the rest are messed up in some way. The third section puts two post-2000 statues at the top of the list when you sort by oldest, which makes no sense. Also, the Ming Dynasty statue should be below the statue in 694 when sorting by oldest (Ming Dynasty was 1368-1644). The fourth section puts a Feb, 2013 statue above every other statue (except for The Sphinx) when sorting by oldest. And, the 3 Tang Dynasty statues should be above the 692 statue (Tang Dynasty was 618-907), unless people can cite a more exact date that puts all 3 below the 692 statue when sorting by oldest. The fifth section has a 1264 BC statue put below a statue from 1151 (I presume CE) when sorting by oldest. Then, 4 pre-1000 statues are put below most of the other statues when sorting by oldest, when they should be above all of the statues except for the statue from BC. Finally, the sixth section, which has quite a few issues. If only one section gets fixed, please be this one. Sorting by oldest, a statue from 1966-1976 is put above statues from 10th century. And then at the bottom, it's just a big mess. 8 statues ranging from 470 - 2007 are all bunched together when sorting by oldest. If anybody has the time to sort out this mess, that would be amazing! --2602:304:CF8F:DB90:6175:3DEF:A467:D9D8 (talk) 04:32, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
Again about minimal height
[edit]The list just huge. I think it is necessary to limit the list to 25/30 meters. --Insider (talk) 12:12, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
- Please comment on this. The list is dimensionless now. Other wiki's uses minimal height: lt (85 m), nl (85), de (40), uk (40), pt (35), es (30), it (25), ru (25), fr (10), ro (10), tr (10), zh (10). I will set a minimum height of 30 meters, if you do not find opponents. --Insider (talk) 06:11, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
- 30 meters is very reasonable, as the lemma is "tallest" (not: monumental) statues. Recently I have set the parameter for the German article on 30 meters, too. --Theophilus77 (talk) 19:15, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
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Possible page move
[edit]Should it be:
- List of the highest statues (current)
- List of highest statues
- List of the tallest statues
- List of tallest statues (redirect here)
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Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:06, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
See also:
- List of tallest bridges in the world
- List of highest bridges in the world
- Category:Lists of tallest structures
- Talk:List of tallest bridges in the world#Requested move 22 April 2015 (opposing the use of "the")
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 19:09, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure tallest is the proper word in this situation. Whether or not the word the needs to be included is a different matter. The two may seem interchangeable but wikt:tall and wikt:high show slight differences. There is also this (note it is stackexchange which is not technically reliable by our standards) that explains the difference.
Tallness is the length of an object that it typically upright -- an absolute measure. Or it is a relative measure: comparison of such lengths.
Height is a distance "above" an origin position or surface.
So the Wiktionary link and the stackexchange thread makes me think that tallest is the right word in this situation. --Majora (talk) 19:33, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
- I agree that it should be List of tallest statues. The word highest seems to imply an altitude - as in List of highest mountains - or a distance above some reference point - List of highest bridges - which are ranked by the deck height above the valley or river below. Artificial structures like statues are typically ranked by how tall they are; as in List of tallest buildings in the world. Anna Frodesiak, you should launch a formal page move, or just be bold and move the page. Hadron137 (talk) 05:12, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
Done. Thank you kindly. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:16, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
It's a bit inconceivable that this statue is nowhere to be found in this page, not on the actual list nor on the "upcoming" section. Since it was dedicated in 2016, it's time to include it in the list. 2600:387:9:3:0:0:0:78 (talk) 03:14, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
- This statue was added, but later removed, on 13 March 2018. It's a noteworthy statue, but does not meet the list criteria (height of statue, not including pedestal, plinth, or platform).Hadron137 (talk) 20:43, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
It should be added to the list since it's real. I'm a puerto rican and I felt offended by this action and I imagine many others felf the same. So can someone please put it back for the love of puerto ricans🇵🇷. CarlosPR5 (talk) 02:28, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
They keep removing it and saying it's "not a statue" but it is CarlosPR5 (talk) 15:12, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
They keep removing it and saying it's "not a statue" but it is CarlosPR5 (talk) 15:12, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]Currently (2017-07-20) the article contains both the following :-
Virgen de la Paz (Virgin of Peace) Mary Trujillo, Trujillo Venezuela 46.7 metres (153 ft) Work of the sculptor Manuel de la Fuente. Tallest sculpture of the Virgin Mary in the world. 1983
Bunda Maria Assumpta Virgin Mary Semarang, Indonesia Indonesia 42 metres (138 ft) The world's tallest Virgin Mary statue. 2015
One description must be incorrect. AnnaComnemna (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:47, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
- You're correct. Bunda Maria Assumpta is 42 meters tall including the pedestal. Without the pedestal it's only 23 meters tall.[1] So the Bunda Maria statue would be removed. HouseGecko (talk) 16:16, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
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The Tallest Christ statue
[edit]The one in the brazilian city of Elói Mendes should be considered the tallest since it's 39.5 meters tall. As can be seen here:
http://www.lavras24horas.com.br/portal/eloi-mendes-cristo-mais-alto-do-planeta-e-noticia-nacional/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 187.36.218.153 (talk) 04:32, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
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Peter the Great Statue
[edit]Why is the Peter the Great Statue missing? It was decided not to be a statue? Still, its article considers it a statue. 91.154.188.185 (talk) 04:13, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
- This is a momument not a statue as per the definition of statue used in that article Robynthehode (talk) 15:25, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
- So, what is a statue? "The statue article tells A statue is a sculpture, representing one or more people or animals. Peter the Great monument does indeed include Peter the Great in it. And, since you mention "definition of statue", the 50m Statuia Tineretului does not have any people or animals represented(or if it does, I don't see that). 91.154.188.185 (talk) 19:57, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
- Well we can discuss what statue sculptures to include in this list and reach a consensus as to what to include and exclude. My view is that the inclusion criteria should follow very closely the definition given in the statue article. This would exclude other monuments or sculptures that have other elements other than people or animals. Such a narrow definition keeps the list manageable. Other 'statues' can be in a list of tallest monuments or sculptures. Robynthehode (talk) 20:45, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
- So, what is a statue? "The statue article tells A statue is a sculpture, representing one or more people or animals. Peter the Great monument does indeed include Peter the Great in it. And, since you mention "definition of statue", the 50m Statuia Tineretului does not have any people or animals represented(or if it does, I don't see that). 91.154.188.185 (talk) 19:57, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
- The Peter the Great monument seems to be commonly accepted as a statue, the wiki article's name even has "statue".
- And the entry for Statuia Tineretului says it depicts "Youth flame". In which way a "youth flame" is people or animal? 85.76.106.156 (talk) 03:12, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
- The Peter the Great monument seems to be commonly accepted as a statue, the wiki article's name even has "statue".
- I agree with Robynthehode. This list is only for statues whose exhibits exceed 30 m. The height of the statue is 18 m. Article ″Peter the Great Statue" should be renamed. At ru-wiki: Памятник Петру I (Москва) (Monument of Peter I (Moscow)), see also Peter I Monument in Taganrog, Monument to Peter I (St. Michael's Castle), Monument to Peter I (Azov), etc. Official name is "Памятник «В ознаменование 300-летия российского флота»" = "Monument "To commemorate the 300th anniversary of the Russian fleet"". "Youth flame" also it is necessary to exclude from the list. --Insider (talk) 10:41, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
- I'm ok with these. 85.76.106.156 (talk) 16:37, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
Is a bust a statue?
[edit]Does a bust qualify as a statue for the purpose of this list? Three works of art (Youth Mao Zedong Statue, Adiyogi Shiva statue, and Atatürk Mask) have recently been removed, but I'm wondering if this is justified. Should otherwise qualified busts be included in this list? Hadron137 (talk) 20:43, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
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- Oppose the removal. Bust is still a statue i.e. statue of a bust versus statue of full body. Criteria is clear, any statue above the 30m minus the plinth. This "bust versus full body" is a new rule being inserted. ATTN ALL: Dont remove without consensus. Before you can implement such rules, please seek consensus first, i.e. add these three back in for now. You can remove later only if you have consensus to do so. Thanks.
PS.1: Oxford dictionary says life-size or bigger Bust is a statue: Oxford dictionary says that a statue is "a carved or cast figure of a person or animal, especially one that is life-size or larger" and it further says about life-size is "Of the same size as the person or thing represented". Bust is well within these definitions by oxford dictionary. This is also reconfirmed by the wikidiff, which says that the bust or figurine are the hyponym for the statue, i.e. a bust is a more "specific" type of statue. In the Comparison of English dictionaries, the definition by Oxford dictionary prevails over and above all other dictionaries because it is the oldest dictionary since 1895 and its version has the highest number of english words (355,000) among the major dictionaries. In comparison, the Webster dictionary first came out in 1966 has maximum 263,000 words only.
PS.2: Numerous editors think bust is a statue that is why they keep adding busts to this article, those busts statues can not be suddenly rejected just by redefining new rules without consensus and based on the dictionary definition from a lower order/status dictionary (webster).
PS.3: Better be inclusivist, less heartache, more happiness. We do not need to get into "mine is bigger than yours". Let all editors be happy by having their busts in. It makes more editors/people/nations happy. Exclusion brings more edit wars and heartache. Happiness is better than unnecessary stress. Make yourself the cause of someone's happiness. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 23:11, 6 April 2018 (UTC) - Comment. While busts should remain the reasons for them remaining should be based on encyclopaedic reasons. The first requirement in Wikipedia is whether busts have been stated as statues in reliable sources. Second if there is differences between sources then a consensus between editors must be reached as to inclusion or exclusion. Neither an aggregate view of the majority of the editors nor being inclusivist or the happiness of editors are reasons for exclusion or inclusion. We must follow Wikipedia guidelines and reliable sources about the definition of a bust and statue is the starting place. Robynthehode (talk) 06:31, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
- Replaced The three previously removed busts have been added back to the list.Hadron137 (talk) 02:00, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Please see this, add it in if it meets the criteria, if not then please explain why
[edit]- Rama statue at Ayodhya in India, 100-metre, planned by the Government of Uttar Pradesh[2]
Thanks. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 23:13, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
- The main focus of List of tallest statues is existing statues. The Rama statue may certainly be added to the list, but it seems from the link that it is a proposed (vision) statue, and there are no firm plans at this time. As a point of reference, the List of future tallest buildings article has criteria that specify the definition of planned. I think a similar approach should be used for this list; either construction has begun, or permits have been approved. As it stands now, however, there's nothing forbidding the inclusion of the proposed Rama statue. Hadron137 (talk) 02:10, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
Please add the clear definitions and criteria on the top of talkpage
[edit]Question: What is the definitions of statue and criteria for inclusion? I have answered it in the "Is a bust a statue?" above.
Please add it the definition on the top of talkpage. This will provide transparency, avoid editing disputes and any manipulations by people inventing impromptu rules, and any potential for misuse, etc. Until then, all edits must be treated in goodfaith as long as height is above 30m above the plinth. Thanks. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 23:24, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
Pie chart, or Table?
[edit]- China: 34
- India: 23
- Japan: 20
- Taiwan: 10
- Brazil: 5
- Thailand: 4
- Malaysia: 4
- Mexico: 3
- Other: 31
Which option is preferred for displaying the countries with the most tall statues? The existing article uses a table, but perhaps a pie chart is better?
Rank | Country | Number of statues |
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1 | ![]() |
34 |
2 | ![]() |
23 |
3 | ![]() |
20 |
4 | ![]() |
10 |
5 | ![]() |
5 |
6 | ![]() |
4 |
7 | ![]() |
4 |
8 | ![]() |
3 |
- | Others | 31 |
(Total) | 138 |
Should the table be replaced with a pie chart? What are the pro's and con's of each method? Hadron137 (talk) 17:13, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
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- I like the table. It's easier to read because you don't have to go looking which colour is which. Plus, it's conventional. And I think the table is necessary because it shows who has lots of statues. Nothing wrong with that. I'm sure visitors find it useful. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:01, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- Obviously table. Pie chart is too ugly. SifaV6 (talk) 01:23, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
- ^ Susanto, Eko. "Patung Maria Assumpta, Ikon Baru Gua Maria Kerep Ambarawa". detiknews. Retrieved 2018-02-20.
- ^ UP government plans 100-metre statue of Lord Rama in Ayodhya, Times of India, 10 Oct 2017.