Talk:List of shipwrecks of Cornwall
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Yeomanry
[edit]As Penrith is in Cumbria and Penwith is in Cornwall it does seem rather odd. "During the first half of the nineteenth century Yeomanry Regiments were used extensively in support of the civil authority to quell riots and civil disturbances ...". Penzance is the main town in west Penwith.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 08:41, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
- I thought it was strange and it could be a spelling mistake in the original source. But I've never heard of a Penwith Yeomanry. A quick glance through Pool's History of Penzance mentions The Penzance Volunteers who were renamed the Mounts Bay First Battalion in 1803. No mention of Penrith so perhaps they are the group mentioned. There was also a Mounts Bay Volunteer Artillery. Unfortunately it is probably too early a date to check newpapers.
- Jowaninpensans (talk) 09:02, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps the author of the book used the wrong description. As yeomanry were cavalry units it seems unlikely that they would exist at that time and place. More likely might be a force of Militia (United Kingdom) who would have some military training. Best left as it is until another reliable source is found.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 10:28, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
- 1818 is not too early to check newspapers, Jowan. You might strike lucky via Gale News Vault per the message I left you on your talk page. Mjroots (talk) 13:17, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
- Perhaps the author of the book used the wrong description. As yeomanry were cavalry units it seems unlikely that they would exist at that time and place. More likely might be a force of Militia (United Kingdom) who would have some military training. Best left as it is until another reliable source is found.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 10:28, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Splitting the List of shipwrecks of Cornwall
[edit]I'm thinking of splitting this article as it is (or will soon be) too bulky. Does anyone have any preferences for the name. I propose:
List of shipwrecks of Cornwall 1901 onwards Jowaninpensans (talk) 23:14, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
- A better name would probably be List of shipwrecks off Cornwall, 1901 onwards. Jowaninpensans (talk) 21:15, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
- Other "list of shipwrecks" lists have names like List of shipwrecks of the United States so following that style is probably best. "List of shipwrecks of Cornwall (20th and 21st centuries)" is an alternative.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 09:34, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
- moved 1901–2000 to List of shipwrecks of Cornwall (20th century). Will probably do the 19th century at some point and no doubt the 20th century will have to be split further at some point Jowaninpensans (talk) 13:44, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Squirrel(l)
[edit]This may be one of the following:-
- HMS Squirrel was a 20-gun sixth rate launched in 1704. She was captured by the French in 1706 and renamed Ecureuil. She was retaken in 1708 but subsequently foundered.
- HMS Squirrel was a 24-gun sixth rate launched in 1707. She was rebuilt in 1727 and was sold in 1749.
There was also a wrecked vessel called Squirrel at Abbotsbury in Dorset about 1760 according to this.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 09:01, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
Flags
[edit]This place would be as good as any to make a note of the right flags to use. Jowaninpensans (talk) 17:12, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
- {{flag|Spain|civil}} produces
Spain. 1785–1927.
- For pre-1785 and post-1927 ships, use the relevant year identifier per Template:Country data Spain.
Orphaned references in List of shipwrecks of Cornwall
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Reference named "Noall":
- From Doom Bar: Noall, Cyrill; Farr, Grahame (1964). Wreck and Rescue round the Cornish Coast – Volume 1: The Story of the North Coast Lifeboats. D. Bradford Barton Ltd. pp. 38–89.
- From List of shipwrecks of the Isles of Scilly: Noall, Cyril (1968). Cornish Lights and Ship-Wrecks. Truro: D Bradford Barton.
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Caledonia
[edit]The brig Caledonia has entries under 1842 and 1843. Its own article says Sept 7, 1842. In Robert Stephen Hawker there is
Hawker was regarded as a deeply compassionate person giving Christian burials to shipwrecked seamen washed up on the shores of the parish, and was often the first to reach the cliffs when there was a shipwreck. Prior to this, the bodies of shipwrecked sailors were often either buried on the beach where they were found or left to the sea. The figurehead of the ship the 'Caledonia', which foundered in September 1842, marks the grave in Morwenstow churchyard of five of the nine-man crew. Hawker described the wrecking in his book Footprints of Former Men in Far Cornwall. Nearby stands a granite cross marked "Unknown Yet Well Known", close to the graves of 30 or more seafarers, including the captain of the Alonzo, wrecked in 1843.
--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 22:46, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
- Its own article also says 1843! Will have a look at the Shipwreck Index if I get the time tomorrow. Jowaninpensans (talk) 23:38, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
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Gunwalloe
[edit]The Halzephron Inn source has much information on the wrecks of 1526 and 1790; however further down the page the latter is said to have occurred in the 1780s. There are details of attempts to bring up the treasure in 1845 and 1847 and 1877 which were unsuccessful.--Johnsoniensis (talk) 18:20, 28 May 2020 (UTC)