Talk:List of regions of Australia
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What categorises a region?
[edit]Dear readers, To help keen writers, why don't we let each state heading double as a link? (Some of the state pages give quite a few clues about regions within the states.) robinp 05:59, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- For Western Australia, see my compilation here: http://zeal.com/category/preview.jhtml?cid=10148965
- It has all of the official RURAL regions (and subcategorises a couple), but nowhere near all the cities in the Perth Metropolitan Area. robinp 05:49, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- I would prefer to use the official regions from http://www.regional.wa.gov.au/pdfs/index.asp I have put the official regions in, sub-regions could become sections on the region pages. Robert McFaul 07:23, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks for contributing, Robert. We have the same WA regions! (Though the specific URL you show is a trifle misleading because its main space deals with only seven (of nine) regions for which a Living in the Regions report is readily "clickable". The main report said all nine were being reported on. robinp 00:25, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
- It would be interesting to have articles on the four 'other' main points of the compass, which are often used:
- Southeastern Australia - does it include brisbane? adelaide?
- Southwestern Australia - how far north and west does it go?
- Northeastern Australia - how far south along the Qld coast does it go?
- Northwestern Australia - is this nearer to North West Cape or to the Kimberleys or include both? is Darwin part of it? --Astrokey44 00:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- It would be interesting to have articles on the four 'other' main points of the compass, which are often used:
- I don't know about the others but southwestern Australia is a coherent region - and a dog's breakfast. We currently have
- Southwest, Western Australia (a disambig)
- Southwest Australia (a WWF ecoregion, which I will probably move to South West Province and re-characterise in terms of Beard's "natural regions", as this used much more than the WWF's system)
- Southwest corner of Western Australia (allegedly a drainage division, but seems to overlap rather strongly with the ecoregion)
- South West (a region under the Regional Development Commissions Act 1993; thanks again for the map by the way ;-) ) Hesperian 12:23, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
- A new stub, North West Australia may partly answer your question. "North West" rather than "Northwestern" or "North-West" is the normal Australian style. Grant | Talk 09:10, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know about the others but southwestern Australia is a coherent region - and a dog's breakfast. We currently have
- I would prefer to see this site use abs (australian bureau of statistics) data. This is better defined than BOM as it has lat/longs and postcode lookups available. It also goes to a lower level of detail than BOM. Just a suggestion. Sorry I'm not a regular wikipedia contributor, so apologies if I haven't followed discussion rules. http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Lookup/1259.0.30.002Main+Features12006?OpenDocument "The Australian Standard Geographical Classification (ASGC) is a hierarchical classification system of geographical areas and consists of a number of interrelated structures. It provides a common framework of statistical geography and enables the production of statistics which are comparable." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Junkdm (talk • contribs) 09:42, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
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- I prefer the BOM regions as they are the most commonly used regions, being mentioned daily in various media etc. This weather and region knowledge is essential for travellers, pilots and farmers etc. The ABS regions, too, are quite comprehensive, but there are missed locations in their records, including Long Flat, New South Wales (who had 296 people vote there in 2007) among others. A quick check with Weather Zone (from BOM) quickly identifies the region in which these smaller towns are placed. Complicating matters further is the fact that the old and commonly used New England is not included in either of these sites.Cgoodwin (talk) 04:30, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
- I think you will find this article is not on many peoples watch list anymore - and your observation of BOM regions is a very good one - I think every state's regional BOM group of regions should be in at least one article per state - and well linked up - in WA http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Regions_of_Western_Australia#Weather_bureau_areas I notice I have not got around to finishing the comparison between the regions - embarassing :( SatuSuro 14:48, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Bio-political map of future ?? Some years ago, I saw a newspaper article & map of a (utopian !) proposed re-organisation of Australian govt, based on replacement of the States with a set of "bio regions" sharing biological/environmental features. Now I can not find any www reference to that map. Can anyone suggest where to look ? I mention this, b/c it might be a useful addition to this page Feroshki (talk) 03:07, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
- Anyone come across an actual technical definition of a region? This would really help the head of this article. Seems like it should be somewhere on http://www.rda.gov.au but I'm yet to find it... --Mark Elliott (talk) 21:56, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
- User:Mark Elliott raises a really good question. There are political regions (determined by state/territory boundaries), there are ABS census districts that are categorised from a mirco level to a macro level, the BOM has its own regions, and then there is the Interim Biogeographic Regionalisation for Australia (IBRA) developed by the (Federal) Department of Sustainability, Environment, Water, Population and Communities that crosses boundaries and is focused on bioregions ranging from a macro to micro level. And there is probably more... I recall that Tourism Australia also has regions, somewhere.... My preference for this article is that its explains that these distinctions exist and provides the reader with the opportunity to choose what kind of region they are looking for. At present, this article assumes BOM regions. If there is not consensus for a broader approach to this article, then perhaps the article should be renamed as Australian Bureau of Meteorology list of regions. It may then require adjustment to the section called "Multi-state/territorial", but the again, I'm not fully across the BOM regions. Feedback and comments are welcome. Rangasyd (talk) 03:48, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- That's what I did at Regions of Western Australia. Hesperian 06:28, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- There are also some confusing locally defined regions that deserve mention. For example, Port Stephens Council decided to join the Mid North Coast for tourism purposes, even though the whole of the LGA is physically in the Hunter Region, somehow managing to get the RTA to erect confusing road signs. This one is only 500m from the Hunter River, about 80km from the Mid North Coast. --AussieLegend (✉) 07:00, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- Read what Hesperian just said -- we made sure the variations etc are well explained at the Western Australian article - and I tried on the categories in Tasmania at about the same time - tourism regions as a rule never coincide with LGA's - it seems almost on purpose.... SatuSuro 08:40, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- There are also some confusing locally defined regions that deserve mention. For example, Port Stephens Council decided to join the Mid North Coast for tourism purposes, even though the whole of the LGA is physically in the Hunter Region, somehow managing to get the RTA to erect confusing road signs. This one is only 500m from the Hunter River, about 80km from the Mid North Coast. --AussieLegend (✉) 07:00, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- That's what I did at Regions of Western Australia. Hesperian 06:28, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Regions is and always will be a complex issue until some time (in the future) when all levels of Governments get together and formulate regions that all levels and departments in Governments will use. An example is the Riverina, the BoM's classification is small (was smaller a few years ago, the main street in Wagga was in fact part in the Riverina and the other was in the South West Slopes) but depending whom you look at, is larger (e.g. Riverina Regional Tourism is about the same size as the BoM but Ernwag & Wrnwag is much larger). You also have the Riverina Highlands (which covers about the same area as the South West Slopes) and then you have joint regions such as this, broken up and mustn't forget the bioregion of the Riverina. You're never going to get the best region, since it all depends on whom you look at and you also have inconsistencies within state Government departments. Bidgee (talk) 11:07, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
- With SA4, would it be right that the entire GCCSA is taken as the primary region for the capital city and SA4s as the primary region for rest of state ? Sdinesh2222 (talk) 01:21, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
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