Talk:List of professional wrestling matches rated 5 or more stars by Dave Meltzer
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[edit]The sources used on this article are incomplete, it is missing numerous matches from AJW and few other companies. I think adding Cagematch.com as a source could be helpful. ItsMichaelRay (talk) 17:44, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- I would suport, but I think citing WON itself would be best of all.★Trekker (talk) 17:57, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- Just use the Cagematch source. It's the most complete collection. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C5D:5B00:3B0:81AB:C9A8:5EFA:B3CE (talk) 04:09, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
- Does WON keep track of all their 5 star matches? I've looked for it and have never found it. ItsMichaelRay (talk) 19:30, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- No sadly I don't think it does, but if we found citations to the specific issues that would be good.★Trekker (talk) 20:20, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- solowrestling and superluchas sometimes covers the 5 stars --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 20:24, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- I actually compiled a few 'five star matches' lists together into one list, although I don't know if that counts as a credible source.ItsMichaelRay (talk) 01:04, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
- You also need to be careful of matches that are often reported as 5 stars, but did not receive 5 stars from Meltzer himself. To wit: the SMW rage in a cage, Cactus Jack vs Eddie Gilbert, and the FMW in LA six-man were not given 5 stars by Dave but from readers who submitted their reports, and are mixed up on sources like Cagematch and ProFight. Sherick (talk) 17:45, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you, I added notes saying they are debated. The main reason I had formatted the list the way I did was so that people could pick and choose which sources they trust. Are there any other incorrectly included matches? ItsMichaelRay (talk) 04:13, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
- You also need to be careful of matches that are often reported as 5 stars, but did not receive 5 stars from Meltzer himself. To wit: the SMW rage in a cage, Cactus Jack vs Eddie Gilbert, and the FMW in LA six-man were not given 5 stars by Dave but from readers who submitted their reports, and are mixed up on sources like Cagematch and ProFight. Sherick (talk) 17:45, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
- I actually compiled a few 'five star matches' lists together into one list, although I don't know if that counts as a credible source.ItsMichaelRay (talk) 01:04, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
- solowrestling and superluchas sometimes covers the 5 stars --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 20:24, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
- No sadly I don't think it does, but if we found citations to the specific issues that would be good.★Trekker (talk) 20:20, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
Not Savage-Steamboat ar WM III?
[edit]Eh? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 197.87.101.254 (talk) 15:25, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
- No, just 4 1/2 stars --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 15:37, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Orphaned references in List of professional wrestling matches rated 5 or more stars by Dave Meltzer
[edit]I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of List of professional wrestling matches rated 5 or more stars by Dave Meltzer's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "cagematch":
- From Tyler Bate: "Tyler Bate". cagematch.net. Retrieved 1 March 2018.
- From Brian Lee (wrestler): "Brian Lee - Cagematch Bio". cagematch.net. Retrieved November 22, 2018.
- From Phil Lafon: "Phil Lafon". Cagematch.net. Retrieved January 24, 2018.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 20:00, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
Wasn't the Rage In A Cage match in SMW 5 stars or not?
[edit]I found out in Profightdb that the match was rated 5 stars but I'm not sure if it's true.
- According to Cagematch, it's not [1] So, one of them is wrong. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 11:56, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
- Double check alleged ratings with the Newsletter, and if you can't or don't want to subscribe to check then don't edit. Sherick (talk) 01:39, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
- According to https://www.iwnerd.com/dave-meltzer-5-star-matches-list/2/ (which has been used as citation on this site regularly for other matches), this match is indeed a 5 star match. Effluvium1 (talk) 00:00, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
- The source is wrong, all 1993 Observers are available online and that rating only appears in correspondent's section. Again, double check. Sherick (talk) 19:31, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- According to https://www.iwnerd.com/dave-meltzer-5-star-matches-list/2/ (which has been used as citation on this site regularly for other matches), this match is indeed a 5 star match. Effluvium1 (talk) 00:00, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
- Double check alleged ratings with the Newsletter, and if you can't or don't want to subscribe to check then don't edit. Sherick (talk) 01:39, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
I have an addition to the list...maybe...
[edit]Firstly, I'd like to point out that neither ProfightDB nor Cagematch.net are "complete" lists of 5-star matches. Examples of this are NONE of the AJW (All-Japan Women's Pro-Wrestling) matches or cards are featured on ProfightDB, and there's also a few matches missing from Cagematch.net (eg, the WarGames match at The Great American Bash 1987 has no rating). However, I found a match that has a 5-star rating on both those sites, and I was wondering if anyone could verify this for me? The Fantastics vs. The Midnight Express on a taping of NWA Worldwide - for the US Tag Team Titles, on April 26, 1988 (although I don't think it was aired until May 14th) - can anyone help? Effluvium1 (talk) 23:51, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think he ever rated that. There's no mention of a star rating anywhere in his body of writing, though he has in recent years said it was one of the three best tag matches he's ever seen, which would imply 5 stars, but he never straight up said it. Sherick (talk) 19:57, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
- We now have confirmation from Dave himself that he gave that match 5-stars:
- https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1529617011462270976?s=20&t=Iz-d5X1JEqFF-9I29TssSg
- Looks like we need to add it to the official list. 132.147.11.120 (talk) 18:10, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
delete pls. I was wrong. matches were re-rated in the 2/25/91 issue
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Roman VS Cody at WM40 (Entry 91)
[edit]This match scored 4.75 and not 6.75 as shown. Sources below:
https://tjrwrestling.net/news/dave-meltzer-wwe-wrestlemania-40-night-two/
https://featuresofwrestling.com/2024/04/12/dave-meltzer-star-ratings-wwe-wrestlemania-40/ Dillpicklerush (talk) 13:35, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Fixed, thanks — Czello (music) 13:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- If it was below a 5* rating then it shouldn't be in the list at all and you could just remove it entirely. Dillpicklerush (talk) 16:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- Good point, my brain clearly stopped working when I made that edit! I've removed it now. Thanks. — Czello (music) 16:02, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- If it was below a 5* rating then it shouldn't be in the list at all and you could just remove it entirely. Dillpicklerush (talk) 16:00, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
Two Flair v Windham Florida matches are 5-star
[edit]But CWF is listed as only ever having had ONE 5-star match... 197.87.135.139 (talk) 12:30, 5 June 2024 (UTC)