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Criteria for inclusion

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@Bdog Drummond: Many of the hyperlinks in the United Kingdom section of this page, link through to specific titles rather than a family or 'house'. Titles can be held by multiple families over time and do not in themselves constitute a 'noble house'. One current example at the time of typing is the 'House of Rich' that leads to Baron Rich, a single title, rather than Rich family, which, although currently a stub, is about the family which held this and several other titles, i.e. a noble house so to speak.

Suggested amendments:

  • All references to single titles should be removed, as these are not a 'noble house' in and of themselves, and are well covered by the Peerages in the United Kingdom and the associated Lists Peerages and baronetcies of Britain and Ireland (Dukes, Marquesses, Earls, Vicounts and Barons)).
  • All references and associated links to pages other than families be removed, e.g. at time of writing the 'House of Foix' in the France section, simply links to 'County of Foix'.

Suggested criteria for inclusion:

  • Listings must link to articles about the specific family or 'house' in question. If the family does not have a dedicated page, then they should not be listed.
  • In countries such as the United Kingdom where a formal nobility exists, i.e. those holding a peerage title, all families listed must currently (have previously held) a formal or feudal title in order to be considered 'noble'.
  • In order to constitute a 'house' a family should have held multiple formal or feudal titles across multiple personnel or branches. Otherwise all titles already listed in Peerages in the United Kingdom will simply be eligible for duplication here.
  • All entries should adhere to the page description and be of "national or international significance".
  • Baronetcies are not part of the peerage of the United Kingdom and are no considered 'noble'.

AndrewFletcher (talk) 09:57, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]