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Include names of principal settlements?

Should we include details about principal settlements for which there is a wiki article e.g.

Makana Local Municipality (EC104) [Grahamstown]

-- (comment added by User:Paul_Hjul on 16 May 2006)

Put it in tables etc

Is it possible to maybe put these into tables and/or include area and population? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.240.70.30 (talk) 19:14, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think so. I can't extract data from the demarcation web site but I do have a ready document from StatsSA with 2007 data for all municipalities, including number of persons and number of households. I have no idea where to get data like area. As for principal settlements, it's a case of manual searching (but I've done it here so you can see what it looks like). It would also be nice if we could add logos of each municipality and perhaps a map with an indication of where it is, but I'm not sure how one would do that. -- leuce (talk) 19:31, 19 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Municipal seat towns

I've started adding the seat towns for local and district municipalities. I "randomly" started with the DM where I live. :) I think we should work on completing this for all the municipalities in time for the upcoming elections. Roger (talk) 16:26, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I like it. I think we should actually go further and convert this list to a table, with area and population data, as suggested in the previous section. I actually have a source for area data (the Demarcation Board's GIS file). So the table could look something like this for the Western Cape:

Name		Code	Seat	Area (km²)	Population (2007)
City of Cape Town (Metro)		CPT	Cape Town	2,460	3,497,097
West Coast District Municipality		DC1	Moorreesburg	31,104	286,751
	Matzikama Local Municipality	WC011	Vredendal	5,549	46,362
	Cederberg Local Municipality	WC012	Clanwilliam	7,339	31,942
	Bergrivier Local Municipality	WC013	Piketberg	4,407	44,741
	Saldanha Bay Local Municipality	WC014	Vredenburg	1,766	78,982
	Swartland Local Municipality	WC015	Malmesbury	3,692	77,524
Cape Winelands District Municipality		DC2	Worcester	22,309	712,413
	Witzenberg Local Municipality	WC022	Ceres	2,851	75,148
	Drakenstein Local Municipality	WC023	Paarl	1,538	217,089
	Stellenbosch Local Municipality	WC024	Stellenbosch	831	200,524
	Breede Valley Local Municipality	WC025	Worcester	2,994	134,271
	Langeberg Local Municipality	WC026	Ashton	3,332	80,121
Overberg District Municipality		DC3	Bredasdorp	11,405	212,787
	Theewaterskloof Local Municipality	WC031	Caledon	3,248	86,719
	Overstrand Local Municipality	WC032	Hermanus	1,708	74,547
	Cape Agulhas Local Municipality	WC033	Bredasdorp	2,841	28,444
	Swellendam Local Municipality	WC034	Swellendam	2,999	22,833
Eden District Municipality		DC4	George	23,331	513,307
	Kannaland Local Municipality	WC041	Ladismith	4,758	24,715
	Hessequa Local Municipality	WC042	Riversdale	5,734	39,081
	Mossel Bay Local Municipality	WC043	Mossel Bay	2,011	117,838
	George Local Municipality	WC044	George	1,072	136,542
	Oudtshoorn Local Municipality	WC045	Oudtshoorn	3,537	79,606
	Bitou Local Municipality	WC047	Plettenberg Bay	992	39,002
	Knysna Local Municipality	WC048	Knysna	1,059	65,045
Central Karoo District Municipality		DC5	Beaufort West	38,854	56,230
	Laingsburg Local Municipality	WC051	Laingsburg	8,784	5,156
	Prince Albert Local Municipality	WC052	Prince Albert	8,153	8,374
	Beaufort West Local Municipality	WC053	Beaufort West	16,330	37,090

What do you think? - htonl (talk) 18:22, 11 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I like it! But I'm not really comfortable working in tables - I'm afraid I'll break a cell or scramble a whole column if I put a comma in the wrong place. Should I continue adding the towns in the current list format or should I wait until all the tables are created? Roger (talk) 09:30, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Another thought - looking at the WC table you've made - it's not explcitly stated that "City of Cape Town" is a metropolitan municipality. I've added the word "Metro" with a link to Metropolitan municipality (South Africa) like so: [[City of Cape Town]] [[Metropolitan municipality (South Africa)|(Metro)]]. How about that? Roger (talk) 09:50, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead with adding the towns, as it makes it easier for me to fill in the tables if I don't have to look them up myself. As for Cape Town - it's actually the only metro where "Metropolitan Municipality" isn't part of the official name (e.g. Joburg is "City of Johannesburg Metropolitan Municipality") so we might just list it as "City of Cape Town Metropolitan Municipality" to be consistent with the others. - htonl (talk) 10:05, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I see that City of Cape Town Metropolitan Municipality is already a redirect so that solves it nicely. Roger (talk) 10:27, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've completed adding municipal seats for a few more provinces. I'll continue tomorrow - KZN is a huge (and scary!) chunk of work! Roger (talk) 19:33, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You've beaten me to it for some of the provinces. I've now completed adding all the remaining seat towns. It's just a pity there are so many redlinks. Roger (talk) 17:42, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Demarcation changes coinciding with the 2011 Local Elections

Wow, it looks so different two days later! But great job. I'm just too nervous to edit it now. Could someone add another note that Nokeng tsa Taemane and Kungwini will be merged with Tshwane metro after the elections? See http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Nokeng_tsa_Taemane_Local_Municipality#cite_note-3 and http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Kungwini_Local_Municipality#cite_note-2 for verification. I guess that means Metsweding DM will cease to exist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gk sa (talk • contribs) 19:20, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done. I also added a note about the merger of Kagisano and Molopo municipalities in the NW. - htonl (talk) 19:33, 13 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Great!Gk sa (talk) 12:20, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rename

Would this article be better named "List of municipalities in South Africa"? Thoughts? - htonl (talk) 15:25, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. It will then also be in compliance with WP:TITLEFORMAT as I understand it, which requires nouns instead of adjectives (South Africa instead of South African). Roger (talk) 16:24, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have requested opinions from MOS regulars at Wikipedia talk:Article titles#Which title is preferred? Roger (talk) 16:36, 14 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well is seems the proposal isn't attracting any objections so I'm doing it now. Roger (talk) 09:17, 16 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Organisation of the multitude of SA Municipality pages

All interested parties, please follow the discussion on Talk:Districts of South Africa#Table? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gk sa (talk • contribs) 19:12, 17 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]