Talk:List of most valuable records

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It's a CD. Does it qualify for inclusion in an article about "records"?Pzzp (talk) 19:31, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There's several items on this list that aren't records, and I agree: they shouldn't be here.Peezy1001 (talk) 15:24, 1 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

CDs etc

IMO CDs are records. "Record" is just short for "recording". Vinyl albums are [[LP record]s. That's a subset of "record" I think. We also have 45s and 78s in this article. 78s were on shellac so we have that medium too. If there's a valuable tape we could put it on this list. We could rename the article -- most valuable analog records. Most valuable vinyl records (but then we have to dump the 78s). Most valuable LPs would cut out 45s. The article's not too long so I don't know if we need to make separate articles. LPs and 45s and CDs are pretty closely related, little round things with music on them that you put into a mechanical player.

We could go with "List of most valuable recordings"? Then if there's like an Edison cylinder that a museum has that is highly valued or whatever, that could go in. Only existing original recording of a Roosevelt speech, that sort of thing.

IMO the best thing would be to just break the article into sections -- LPs, 45s, 78s, CD, cylinders (when and if we get any), tapes (when and if we get any). LPs and 45s could be together under "vinyl" I guess. There's the first recording of a human voice... it was was made in 1860, on paper (they didn't have a playback machine them but we can play it back now). I suppose the original is in a museum and is valuable. Here.

Might as well make the article more interesting and useful rather than erasing info. If you want seperate articles for CDs and so forth them make it rather than erasing.

So probably let's just rename the article to "List of most valuable recordings". Any objections? We could have a WP:RM discussion if so. Herostratus (talk) 15:43, 23 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

>>>>>>> "List of most valuable recordings" agree Pzzp (talk) 00:19, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree. First, there's no common usage of the word "record" that means "any recording in any media." No one, so far as I've ever heard, refers to tapes or CDs as types of "records." No one, so far as I've ever heard, says "Hey, I tried calling you yesterday but got your voicemail. I left you a record."

Secondly, I think you're conflating the meanings of "rarity" and "value." Rarity is a somewhat subjective concept, whereas value is something that can be independently verified. There are reliable original sources that can be referenced to support a claim that a vinyl record is valuable --i.e., that it sold for a high price. Speculation that a particular object is valuable is not appropriate in a wikipedia entry, whereas a citation of reliable information on such values would be.

Finally, there's an inherent difference that you're glossing over: digital recordings are never truly rare because such recordings can be infinitely replicated. You or I could make an exact copy any time we want, which is very much not the case with a rare record. Peezy1001 (talk) 16:10, 6 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Image

Currently there's an image in the article of "A Hungarian Pathé record, 90 to 100 rpm". How does it relate to the content of the article? I can't see anything mentioned in the article that resembles "A Hungarian Pathé record, 90 to 100 rpm" in any way......... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:35, 14 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]