Talk:List of highest-grossing horror films
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Clean Up List Tag
[edit]I added the clean up list tag because the values in the lists are just really weird. Children's animated and comedies are listed here for some reason. Also Hotel Transynvania is listed in the Dracula universe that talks of the original book. The data is just really bad, but I have no idea how to fix lists. Jnordwick (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 16:19, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
- I agree, Hotel Transylvania and Scary movie shouldn't be here 151.16.234.126 (talk) 23:56, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- I agree.A film having horror elements does not make it actually horror. 2804:7638:416E:5800:D950:BB0C:AD09:36E6 (talk) 20:09, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
franchise and film series
[edit]add a franchise and film series sectionFanoflionking 23:44, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
- Feel free to help out.★Trekker (talk) 23:59, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
Question
[edit]dose Hotel Transylvania , Scooby-Doo , Monsters, Inc., Monsters vs. Aliens , The Mummy and Predator count Fanoflionking
- Most of those are kids films, so can't really be horror films even if they have horror elements, I'd say Predator is a little more complex. If we find a soure that lists it among the top grossing horror films then I'd say we can add it.★Trekker (talk) 23:27, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
- Fanoflionking, there is something very wacky going on in the franchise list right now. I propose we work on it with someone who has more experience with tables.★Trekker (talk) 23:42, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
i ask on highest grossing films page and copy the table
Godzilla | $1,630,417,893 | 37 | $44,065,348 | ||
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1 | Godzilla films between 1954-18 | $1,630,417,893 |
The Conjuring Universe | $1,569,001,120 | 5 | $313,800,224 | The Nun ($365,550,119) | |
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1 | The Nun (2018) | $365,550,119 | |||
2 | The Conjuring 2 (2016) | $320,392,818 | |||
3 | The Conjuring (2013) | $319,494,638 | |||
4 | Annabelle: Creation (2017) | $306,515,884 | |||
5 | Annabelle (2014) | $257,047,661 |
also will Ghostbusters count Fanoflionking
- We need sources for including anything here.★Trekker (talk) 00:21, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Universe
[edit]do these count 1 - The Mummy (1999 film) 2 - The Mummy Returns 3 - The Scorpion King 4 - Van Helsing 5 - The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor 6 - Dracula Untold 7 - The Mummy (2017 film
- Again, find a source that lists them as one of the top grossing horror films. Don't ask here.★Trekker (talk) 07:18, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
Non-American films
[edit]Why exactly are the Japanese films for Godzilla and The Grudge not listed down in the franchise section like the English langauge ones are?★Trekker (talk) 11:23, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Godzilla
[edit]Pardon me, but I don't see a reason for including Godzilla films on this page. None of them are straightforward horror films that convey fear or grotesque imagery as their main focus. גודזילה (talk) 13:00, 3 June 2021 (UTC)
- I agree with you completely, same can be said about the King Kong movies and the whole Monsterverse... Lukros76 (talk) 21:49, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
Why is Dr. Strange on the list?
[edit]It doesn’t come close to being a horror movie, and it isn’t listed as one anywhere. The official genre is action/adventure. 84.238.93.238 (talk) 11:58, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
Orphaned references in List of highest-grossing horror films
[edit]I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of List of highest-grossing horror films's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Guinness 2015":
- From List of highest-grossing science fiction films: Records, Guinness World (2014). Guinness World Records. Vol. 60 (2015 ed.). pp. 160–161. ISBN 9781908843708.
- From List of highest-grossing comedy films: Records, Guinness World (2014). Guinness World Records. Vol. 60 (2015 ed.). pp. 160–161. ISBN 978-1-908843-70-8.
- From 1975 in film: Records, Guinness World (2014). Guinness World Records. Vol. 60 (2015 ed.). pp. 160–161. ISBN 9781908843708.
- From List of highest-grossing musical films: Guinness World Records (2014). Guinness World Records. Vol. 60 (2015 ed.). pp. 160–161. ISBN 9781908843708.
- From List of highest-grossing films: Records, Guinness World (2014). Guinness World Records. Vol. 60 (2015 ed.). pp. 160–161. ISBN 978-1-908843-70-8.
Reference named "korea":
- From List of highest-grossing musical films: "영화정보". KOFIC. Korean Film Council. Retrieved June 23, 2019.
- From 1984 in film: "KOFIC 영화관 입장권 통합전산망". Korean Film Council (in Korean). September 2018. Retrieved 8 November 2018.
- From List of highest-grossing comedy films: "영화정보". KOFIC. Korean Film Council. Archived from the original on 25 December 2018. Retrieved 26 August 2019.
- From List of highest-grossing non-English films: "영화정보". KOFIC. Korean Film Council. Retrieved 3 February 2019.
- From List of highest-grossing Japanese films: "영화정보". KOFIC. Korean Film Council. Retrieved 24 September 2019.
- From List of highest-grossing sports films: "영화정보" [Movie Information]. KOFIC (in Korean). Korean Film Council. Retrieved 24 September 2019.
- From List of films by box office admissions: "영화정보" [Movie Information]. KOFIC (in Korean). Korean Film Council. Archived from the original on 25 December 2018. Retrieved 26 August 2019.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 22:05, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
Dracula?
[edit]Proposing its removal. “Dracula” is not a franchise, period, The fills listed do not take place in the same “universe” and are not connected in any way besides the use of the same public domain idea. You might as well say every movie that has a laser gun in it taken together constitute a franchise. UniNoUta (talk) 01:35, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- While I agree that it's not a universe it is still basically the same character or slight variations of the character which can be put under the same banner. A similar thing is done with Batman and Spider-man for example, there are multiple different series but they all stand under one banner when talking about the franchises and their box office and such. They might be separated into multiple film series but they are all a joint franchise imo. That's just my take tho. I can understand your point of view since most Dracula films are quite disconnected. Lukros76 (talk) 08:29, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
- It’s not a franchise. Period. And this is a list of highest-grossing franchises. The options would be to retitle the list in a way that would include it, or remove it. I would vote for the latter since no reason to change the spirit of the list. UniNoUta (talk) 11:49, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
Demon Slayer: Mugen Train
[edit]Why do people keep adding this film when it was clearly stated multiple times by the author that it is a dark fantasy and not a horror. It is also quite obvious that it is not horror but rather has elements of horror. Just like the series isn't a horror series but rather an action series so is the movie. Lukros76 (talk) 08:02, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
"Scary Movie" franchise in the list of highest-grossing horror franchises
[edit]"Scary Movie" franchise needs to be among comedy franchises not horror. It is a spoof of horror movies but it's genre is comedy. 223.177.175.48 (talk) 06:12, 19 December 2022 (UTC)
Non-horror on the list?
[edit]So I was looking at the first list and instantly noticed "I am Legend". I mean if the wiki page of the movie doesn't even list the genre the list is for, should it really be added here? With IMDb as source, it's an Action/Drama/Sci-Fi, with Wikipedia as source it's a "post-apocalyptic action thriller film". Even the source from Box Office Mojo calls it "Action Drama Sci-Fi Thriller". The novel is allegedly horror and I can't speak of that since I haven't read it, but after having seen the movie it's really not making it in to the horror section in my opinion. I also want to agree with the previous comment of "Scary Movie"s involvement on the list for the same reasons. Essentially my point is that just because ã movie has elements in it which can be conceived as horror, it doesn't automatically make it one. And if it's not listed on its own wiki page as one, the page about the movie should either add the genre or it should go off a list such as this. Thoughts? Narawa (talk) 15:14, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
- I wouldn't count 'Deliverance' as a horror movie either. Bkatcher (talk) 05:06, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
- Technically, Scary Movie is listed on its page here as a horror comedy, but I'm not sure how it's classified elsewhere. 2601:249:9301:D570:192:9F47:35DD:2FDC (talk) 01:35, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
Dracula
[edit]As someone brought this up earlier, I don't think Dracula should be on the franchise and film series list. Dracula films are based on Bram Stoker's 1897 novel "Dracula", which entered in public domain in 1962. You cannot add sole adaptations of a public domain because that's not part of a authorized franchise. Only direct sequels can be added cause those constitute a "series", or films that have been released before the public domain date of 1962.DCF94 (talk) 11:04, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
Five Nights at Freddy's
[edit]Someone should add the Fnaf movie as I saw it grossed over 216 million, which should place it comfortably on the list, I couldn't find a good source though for this only the FNAF Movie wikipedia article that said this MatTheWIzard (talk) 18:09, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
Hotel Transylvania
[edit]Why is it listed as a horror movie 2404:E801:2003:2EB1:9042:8DD9:78C2:61AB (talk) 03:52, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- i am asking the same question, the inclusion of hotel transylvania on this list is so absurd that i immediately came to the talk section to see if anyone else had objections. it and all "Dracula" derivatives should be removed for the same reasons cited in earlier posts: it's public domain and based off of a common character and trope, it is not a related franchise as the filmmakers of each film are not working together based on source material, but creating separate characters and lore for each individual work. Angeltenders (talk) 05:10, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
Further tagging
[edit]The article has several issues. The "Franchise" section seems to be original research, unsourced material and more.
- The "Highest-grossing horror film franchises and film series" section has a "Dracula" series, and proceeds to link to the article on the book. This article and the other makes no claims for a "Dracula" series or what is may or may not consist, and appears to go against WP:FORUM, "Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought", in short, we do not write about content that one could perceive as being related.
- Other content clearly has reliable sources, states the gross of a film, but lacks other material to verify it on the list. For example, the Historical Journal of Film, Radio and Television is obviously a strong source for the 1930s Warner Bros. film gross. Simply stating the gross of Doctor X, does not indicate it was the highest grossing horror film of the year though, and the source does not even state the genres of any film. There's one titled Hatchet Man which we might as well apply if we are going by pulp-y sounding titles.
- Other sources seem to be questionable at best. Outside WP:RS/IMDB being failed for IMDb, others like JP-BoxOffice, or FilmsRanked, appear to be self-published sources which, outside occasional exceptions, we do not use on Wikipedia. (see WP:SPS)
While the article is about the highest grossing horror films, I think we need to probably give more details to what is and what isn't valid for inclusion on the topic. Some material just may not be available to the public depending on the era of cinema it was involved in, or simply lost to time. Its time now to clean these up and balance them out for clarity. Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:45, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
The Meg
[edit]Should the movies from the Meg series be included in the list? They are classified as horror on Boxofficemojo, one of the main sites used as reference on this page 151.16.129.203 (talk) 22:17, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
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