Talk:List of highest-grossing films in Malaysia
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Subjective POV fluff, editorials, etc
[edit]In these three edits I removed some subjective POV fluff, editorials, etc. "Huge" is a subjective term and is inappropriate for inclusion in an encyclopedia. Academic references like Wikipedia use objective data: dollars, numbers, degrees, percentages, etc. Also, it appears that someone is treating Wikipedia as their personal blog, attempting to analyze performance without providing any references, etc. Content like this is inappropriate:
- With expansion of local cinema chains, 2015 marks an outstanding box office year with three blockbusters rank the top three on the chart of highest grossing films of all-time.
Again, "blockbuster" is subjective and meaningless from an academic perspective. So is "outstanding". We don't need the editorials. My hope is that this note will help underscore the problem so that these editors can avoid it in the future. If it continues, the page will be protected. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 05:18, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
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What is the point of this article?
[edit]I don't understand what the point of this article is. Are we just here to log international films that made money in Malaysia? That doesn't make sense to me. Usually when we track a nation's highest-grossing films we're talking about films produced by that nation. Currently, the most prominent information on the page are American films. It also looks like all we're doing here is indiscriminately reprinting data blocks lifted from boxofficemojo. There's no point to this. If people want to research the top 100 grossing films in Malaysia, that source already exists without us reprinting it. Further, much of the content in the article is unsourced, yet there are frequent changes without new sources being added. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:17, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
- It is very unwieldy in what it attempts to cover, but there is no reason to exclude non-Malaysian films purely on the basis they are not Malaysian. For instance, List of highest-grossing films in the United Kingdom covers both British films and non-British films but it's a lot more focused than this list. The year stuff probably needs to be split off into its own articles like List of 2015 box office number-one films in the United States. Betty Logan (talk) 19:14, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Poor references = data at risk of deletion
[edit]Unless poor sources like "indianmoviestats.com" are replaced with actual quality sources, the data is going to be at risk of deletion. We shouldn't be using random websites as sources unless it can be demonstrated that they have established reputations for fact-checking and accuray. Anyone can start a blog and print whatever they want, that doesn't mean the data has been vetted or verified in any way, and thus any data in the article that is supported by these poor references are inherently untrustworthy. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:13, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
Flagged as disputed
[edit]In this edit I flagged the List of Highest Grossing Tamil Language Films (2014) section as disputed. The figures, especially the overly-detailed six-digit and seven-digit figures do not appear in the accompanying references. Kaththi has a very specific 1,748,382 value, but when we look at the source, there is no such 7 digit figure. The closest I see is in an Overseas gross table, where 11.75 crore is indicated. That would translate to 117,500,000 would it not? For Veeram, I see 818,391 in the article. But the source doesn't show any such figure. I see 5.5 crore in the overseas column for Malaysia. Where are the figures in the article coming from?
It's also unclear what these figures are supposed to represent. The gross values that Tamil Language films earned solely in Malaysia? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:34, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
@Visnu92:, you added some of these very specific figures in these edits. Perhaps you can shed some light on where this data is found in the sources you provided? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:36, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
- The value were converted from India rupee to USD. And the figure are only for Malaysia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Visnu92 (talk • contribs)
- @Visnu92: Why was this not indicated in any way? Why is there no dollar sign ($)? Why are the values being converted to USD at all? US dollars are not the currency of Malaysia. If anything, the Indian rupees should be converted to Malaysian ringgit, but even then, how do we confirm accuracy? The section needs to be rethought. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:35, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
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