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Styria Missing

Styria appears to be the only Austrian Province that is missing. I considered editing it, but this looks kinda sophisticated, and I'm afraid to fuck something up :/ So if somebody who has a grasp of handling this side could include it, that would be very nice. Thanks a lot!

Does it exist a similar article but for countries only?

All these provincial stuff, terrorist organizations and other world organizations doesn't interest me. It clutters up what could have been a nice article. Does the alternative exist which I would prefer?OSB95 (talk) 02:05, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia doesn't exist based on what interests you. This article doesn't look cluttered and it's easy to scan for countries. Salopian (talk) 11:47, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Daesh missing

Daesh (ISIL) could be added to the black - white section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Martijn Oei (talk • contribs) 20:29, 28 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You can write 'ISIS', it will appear 90.68.41.54 (talk) 15:01, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You can write 'ISIS', it will appear Nod3820 (talk) 15:08, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kuwait Missing

No Kuwaiti flag Atinzad (talk) 19:29, 19 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Qatar's Colors

Is it really fair to put Qatar's flag under red and white? Its maroon and white. Costley51 (talk) 20:48, 3 May 2011 (UTC)Christina[reply]

Antarctica

Seriously? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.83.52 (talk) 00:47, 12 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ohm

this article looks pretty unsigned comment by User:189.166.120.184 21:40, 8 February 2007 189.166.120.184

doesn't it? Jimp (cont)(talk)(wikt) 00:13, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How about a list of counties by prettiness of national flags? DSuser 16:51, 27 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article looks pretty indeed. And I would be interested in the List of countries by prettiness of national flags. 80.123.210.172 (talk) 10:53, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New Discussion

A discussion has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries/Lists of countries which could affect the inclusion criteria and title of this and other lists of countries. Editors are invited to participate. Pfainuk talk 12:06, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Countries?

Countries such as Wales, Hong Kong ... Nice. But no Japan... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.229.244.7 (talk) 01:40, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Missing Iran

How can you forget to list IRAN!!!! The first world empire and the regional power of the ME for 2500 years! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.80.113.143 (talk • contribs) 23:25, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Algeria? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.202.169.63 (talk) 23:48, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

it looks like this list is missing Afghanistan's new 2004 flag. im not sure though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruggles the Editor (talk • contribs) 23:03, 12 September 2010 (UTC) actually its missing afghanistan completely! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruggles the Editor (talk • contribs) 23:07, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rewriting

I think that since the article is overloaded, it should only include sovereign states. Subsections should also be sorted alphabetically. Feel free to comment. Maimai009 13:35, 16 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorting criteria?

What exactly constitutes a flag "with other color symbol"? Why is, for example, San Marino sorted as "blue and white with other color symbol", but Liechtenstein as "blue, red, yellow and black"? Some countries like Croatia are even listed twice. Seems rather inconsistent to me. Huon (talk) 00:35, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, this article seems to lack consistency. I think it needs to be cleaned up. I wanted to do it a year ago, but I just forgot about it. Here are the things I want to change in order to improve it:

First things first, I think it would be a good thing to exclude every non-sovereign state. The article is overloaded thus practically unreadable as it is now. Restricting inclusion would prevent any minor state (non sovereign), region, island or whatever to appear on the list. Actually, only states featured in the List of sovereign states should appear in the article.
The main problem with the sorting criteria is that many flags have emblems or symbols on them. In my opinion, there are three cases:

Emblems are significant to the design of the flag, and have one distinctive colours. Each colour should be considered in the classification.

*Example:*
Country	Colours
Albania	Red, black
Japan	White, red
Syria	Black, red, white, green
South Korea	White, red, blue, black

Bold: emblem colours.

Emblems are significant to the design of the flag, but have many colours. Only the main colour should be considered.

*Example:*
Country	Colours
Portugal	Green, red, yellow, ~~blue, white~~
Belize	Blue, red, white, ~~green, others~~

Bold: main emblem colour.

~~Strikethrough~~: non significant emblem colours.

Emblems are not significant to the design of the flag. They shouldn't be considered.

*Example:*
Country	Colours
Malta	Red, white, yellow, ~~grey~~
Nicaragua	Blue, white, ~~yellow, others~~

~~Strikethrough~~: non significant emblem colours.

I am aware that this system is far from perfect and that some countries may fall under more than one of the aforementionned cases, but it's better that nothing, hence better that the current free for all system.

I have a doubt over how these countries should be classified : Latvia, Qatar, Sri Lanka, Eswatini, due to the usage of a dark red color, sometimes close to brown. But in my opinion, I would classify them as red because we shouldn't be too specific.

Thank you to give your opinion. Maimai009 20:56, 13 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Armenia Missing as well

Just pointing out ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.97.74.147 (talk) 22:22, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Added it. Thanks! Huon (talk) 22:52, 8 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Libyan flag

Libyan flag was under red, black, green category while it is red, black, green, and white, so I removed it to the latter category. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.254.5.244 (talk) 15:35, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bhutan

There was some confusion about the flag of Bhutan. 62.78.202.58 recently changed it from red, white and orange to red, white and yellow, but the flag article says it's actually orange, white and yellow. Part of the uncertainty may be due to a change in the flag's coloring in 1968 or 1969, changing the lower half from red to orange. Anyway, I renamed the section accordingly and put it under "yellow and white" to conform to the rest of the sorting scheme. It looks a little off-color compared to the other "yellow" flags, though - thoughts? Huon (talk) 15:47, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sources describe it as yellow eg. World Factbook. We can't divide this article down into the minutiae of different shades of each colour, so I think it's perfectly fine in with other types of Yellow. CMD (talk) 16:33, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

South Sudan is missing

A country already a year old. I tried to do it myself, but the Edit page just scared me, it's clearly beyond my capabilities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.2.127.96 (talk) 09:49, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've added it; thanks for the note! Kiribati was only added last week or so; I wonder what else is missing. We should probably compare this list with one of all countries. Huon (talk) 11:28, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion for list layout (possibly in connection to comments above)

Write a program to extract the amount of R, G, B, brightness/darkness, and possibly composite colours, from each national flag (i.e., the amount of each in the entirety of its pixels), and put the values in a sortable table. I would experiment with it myself, but I don't know how to measure the sub-colours, e.g. yellow etc. 83.6.167.209 (talk) 05:04, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

There could also be a column for the average colour of the flag, to allow sorting them colour-continuously. 83.6.167.209 (talk) 05:06, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, in more accordance to the present system, there could also be a table with some basic colours. Then e.g. a program could extract the flag's most prominent colours by area (just by counting the pixels with them, either strictly or with some room of similarity), and then humans would arbitrarily assign the percentages to the respective basic column. It would work like this (the table is imperfect, e.g. the country cells should be headers, but the compact wikimarkup doesn't seem to support this, headers should be title=''d, etc.):

country	R	Y	B	W	B
France	33%		33%	33%
Germany	33%	33%			33%
Poland	50%			50%

The difference between it and the first table I described is the second table would contain assignments that are human and arbitrary, while the first one would contain the actual numerical values of the colours in the images. 83.6.167.209 (talk) 05:30, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Of course, I'm not opposing the idea of breakup of flags with respect to meaning of their elements (emblems etc.)--that should be done too. 83.6.167.209 (talk) 05:50, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

For plain striped flags it's easy to derive the percentages of each color ( ${\frac {100}{3}}\%$ for plain tribands like the German flag). For flags like that of Japan a bit of geometric reasoning is needed but it's still doable ( $6\pi \%$ red and $(100-6\pi )\%$ white in this case). Though good luck calculating the color composition of the flag of Serbia... SiBr₄ (talk) 07:42, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, but I just meant brute calculation, as the program would be run on my PC. In pseudocode, I just meant for each pixel, colours[pixel.colour]++; for each colour, colours[colour] /= total_pixels_count;. (Or, with "room for similarity", the percentages could be additionally re-counted, including similar pixels in the count too). 83.6.167.209 (talk) 12:49, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Do you know of a program that can determine the color of each pixel of an image like that? Also, if you're using raster images of the flags to find the color of each pixel, wouldn't such a program conclude the flag of France (for example) is partially light blue and pink because of anti-aliasing effects? Maybe the percentages can be calculated manually for the "easier" flags and approximated numerically using an automated program for the "harder" ones. SiBr₄ (talk) 13:24, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's easy, see e.g. http://pl1.php.net/imagecolorat#refsect1-function.imagecolorat-examples (I'm playing with it right now). And yes, anti-aliasing is possibly a problem; that's why I suggested "similarity" in identification of colours, and also why, for my playing, I fetched the biggest available PNGs (that didn't exceed the "nominal size" of the original SVG), usually ca. 1000 px. 83.6.167.209 (talk) 14:15, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Added the composition table to the article.

http://pastebin.com/N29Cg4i7 - code.
http://pastebin.com/734EqxjV - code-output of the script. I'm posting it, because it also contains the most common colours, as I suggested above, in case someone wants to use it (concerning the anti-aliasing, it should be easy to programmatically collect them into "nearly-same" groups).

83.9.2.254 (talk) 04:57, 1 March 2014 (UTC) (IP changed)[reply]

The table you added to the article isn't what you suggested above, is it? The small table at the top of this section gives the percentages of each color in a flag (e.g. the German flag is 1/3 black, 1/3 red and 1/3 gold), while the full table you put in the article gives the "average" color of each flag in both HSL and RGB. SiBr₄ (talk) 12:59, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

inconsistency - "with other color symbol"

Niue, Mexico, Vatican City, Spain,Guatemala, and a lot of others have "with other color symbol" attached. however there are counterexample:

Swaziland has black and white only in its symbol, yet it is listed with these as "main colors"
India is a tricolor with a blue symbol, yet it is listed as 4-colors
Macau is a plain green flag with a yellow-and-white symbol
cyprus is all white with a yellow-and-green-symbol
...lots of others
but definetly Flag_of_Dominica, which is multi-colored but with an even-more-so-multicolored symbol.

I don't really care which way you go, if you list all the colors, or go with the "other color symbol" legend, but please do it consistently. I'd do it, but i'd like feedback first.--Lommes (talk) 16:17, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the article is currently terribly inconsistent regarding whether colors in emblems are counted. Listing all colors in a flag is really not an option when there are flags like

that of Mexico with literally dozens of different colors/shades, though calling the

flag of Niue "yellow with other color symbol" isn't particularly helpful either. There should be a rule of thumb for how intricate an emblem must be in order to use the "other color symbol" tag. SiBr₄ (talk) 17:10, 16 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Lommes: In my sandbox I have categorized all sovereign state flags based on the number of additional colors on emblems. I'd say we should use the tag on flags in the last category only, though some exceptions should be made (it seems rather ridiculous to say Saint Lucia and South Korea have an "other color symbol" while listing all colors for Serbia). It's still a largely arbitrary threshold but at least somewhat more consistent. SiBr₄ (talk) 14:10, 19 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Composition of average colors

Is the "Composition of average colors" section anything but original research? Has any reliable source ever discussed flags by "average" color? The best I could come up with were a couple of blog posts, and I don't see what that list of composition colors is supposed to tell readers. Unless someone can provide a good reason to keep this list, I'm going to remove it. Huon (talk) 16:55, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Donetsk

Well, if you do list not recognised and partially regognised states, list also the DNR and LNR, espesially the DNR flag has a longer history. [1] [2].

By the way, what's with historic flags? Like Flag of the Qing dynasty and such.

Donetsk People's Republic has only been an entity for six years. (Granted, there's a difference between how long a state entity has been around, and how long the state ha been around.

By contrast, the Qing flag lasted close to three decades.Dogru144 (talk) 20:56, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

More flags in yelloW

-City of Anchorage (Alaska) -Honolulu County (Hawaii) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.36.15.132 (talk) 07:40, 12 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the suggestions. I've added the flag of Anchorage, Alaska, but I can't make up my mind about how to classify the flag of Honolulu County. Does it have enough red to be filed under that color, or should I just put it under yellow with a "other color symbol" note? Concrete Cloverleaf (talk) 14:07, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Illinois

I've been adding some US state flags, but I'm unsure about what to do with the flag of Illinois. Should I create a new subcategory - 1.1.1.1.2.1 Red, blue, green, yellow, white, and brown - or should I just put it under White with an "other color symbol" note? Concrete Cloverleaf (talk) 14:00, 9 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Sorting and selection criteria redux

Looks like there have been a couple of discussions on this talkpage over the last few years about reorganizing this list and being more strict with inclusion criteria, but I can't tell if there's ever been a serious attempt to follow through with the suggestions mentioned because it's still a mess. I have my own ideas that are similar, but slightly different, to what previous editors have suggested, but I'm trying to figure out what went wrong with previous attempts so I don't make the same mistakes. I can imagine a few scenarios... maybe there were never enough editors interested at the same time and it turned into too big of a job for one person or maybe there were edit wars and people gave up. Any ideas? Anyone still following this talkpage? —PermStrump(talk) 00:32, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If you have the ideas and the willingness to reorganise the page, there's no reason you can't start the proposal here. I think previous discussion just died off. CMD (talk) 09:39, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Towns/States/Provinces

So recently, all of the town, state, and province flags got removed from this page. Why? Is it really necessary to delete all of them? Kbimbatti22 (talk) 12:55, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I recently removed around 7 or 8 flags that were all multi-colored seals emblazoned on blue fields and categorized inconsistently. I just ran a comparison between the start of 2017 and the edit before mine, and I don't see many (any?) other removals, so I don't think there's a purge on flags based on size of territory, if that's what you're suggesting. —jameslucas ^{▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄} 18:28, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I looked into the edits more, and really all that was deleted were US State flags. Still, I find it pointless to remove state flags them from the list, unless there's something I'm missing. Kbimbatti22 (talk) 20:04, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My feeling is that any flags that have full-color seals emblazoned on some field or pattern should be categorized without consideration of the colors included in the seal (or else they should be excluded from this article entirely). Between the poor grammar ("with other color symbol") and the inconsistency with which they are sorted, the current system is not successful. To be as useful as possible, this page should be about dominant colors, and the various insignificant colors of seals should be ignored. In short, the flag of Minnesota (and all the others I removed) should be sorted as Blue if they are to be restored. (I may be swayed to acknowledge the yellow text on the flag of Montana as a sortable color, but my instinct is to ignore that too.) —jameslucas ^{▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄} 04:03, 18 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, flags that have a seal shouldn't be excluded from the list, that's silly. However, I feel that the seals should count for something. Maybe not all of the colors should be counted for, but the dominant color on the seals should be. Kbimbatti22 (talk) 15:54, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

India

It's not Gold. It's Orange or precisely Saffron.

Scope of this article

PrezTNT825 has raised an objection to the current scope of this article being limited to "flags of states, territories, and other entities" and would like to add movements. We've certainly had movements (notably gay rights) appear here and there may be some lurking now (I'm not sure how to characterize the Gadsden flag). There have also been non-state entities, particularly U.S. millitary divisions. I'm not opposed to this in principal, but I'm concerned about this article ballooning to the point where it's no longer useful. With this in mind, there are two aspects to this discussion:

How does this article become/remain useful? I suggest that its main reason for existence is so that a person who has seen a flag unknown to them can come here and look it up based on its colors: Alice sees a blue and white flag with a sun on it, she comes here, goes to "White, blue", and sees that Argentina's flag is a match—success! If this is the purpose of this article, than the list needs to be of a manageable length, and it needs to be sorted by colors that are easily identified, even at small sizes (N.b. lapel pins worn by Argentinian diplomats tend not to have the sun painted yellow for practical reasons).
Is there a good way to define what is included and what is excluded? National flags are a lock. Top-level regions of major countries (German states, Chinese provinces) make quite a bit of sense. Flags of major cities (Chicago, Amsterdam) seem reasonable, but are not beyond discussion, and the same goes for top-level regions of smaller countries (Ecuadorian provinces). How do we approach small cities? Army divisions? Religious institutions? Social movements? Quasi-states like ISIL? Without limits, this article could (and with time will) become substantially larger. Potential criteria for inclusion could possibly involve:
- restriction to entities with territory
- restriction to entities recognized by the U.N.
- restriction to entities representing over, say, 200 000 people
- restriction to entities that have a means of making a flag design "official" through laws, bylaws, etc.
- restriction to flags that are recognized by some third party (the U.N., NAVA, etc.)
- restriction to flags that are significant enough to have a dedicated Wikipedia article

It would be good to discuss this and see if there's a consensus, and to that end, I'm pinging e d it o r s who may have an interest in this topic. Cheers. —jameslucas ^{▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄} 19:38, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For the restriction with entities with territory, I think any state with territory should be included, but the restriction means that organizations like the Olympics or Eurovision wouldn't get their flags included. The only one I think absolutely shouldn't be used as criteria would be the one about the UN. It only has 193 members, making the need for a list pretty unnecessary. I would also like to bring up this question: Should historical flags be included? Kbimbatti22 (talk) 01:34, 4 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To your point about historical flags, I say yes, include them. I'd say the historical flag should have it's own dedicated article, have been in use for a substantial period (>50 years?), and it should differ significantly from the correlating modern flag (for example, I wouldn't list the historical progressions of the United States flags that are essentially stars and stripes, only varying the number). Hoof Hearted (talk) 19:17, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Oh dear, I just made substantial additions to this article before coming here. I added all flags from Flags of cities of the United States that had flag articles or substantial article sections devoted to the flag - along the same lines as your last bullet point. I thought that might be a good limiter. Feel free to undo anything you don't like. Hoof Hearted (talk) 18:50, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I thought I'd add, my main motivation for adding the cities here was to remove the unwieldy list of flags that was at the disambiguation page Red White and Blue (diff). I felt this was already more complete and better organized than what we had there, but there were a few missing. Hoof Hearted (talk) 18:59, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like there’s been a slow creep of scope since I was last particularly active in improving this list (around the time this conversation was started). Shorepine not unreasonably pointed out to me today the vagueness of ‘entities’ in the first sentence; I’ve always taken that to exclude ideologies and by extension political parties, but of course that’s not a given from the wording. In the conversation I started in 2018, there didn’t seem to be much enthusiasm for extending the scope, so I think a geographic entity is a good limit for the time being. To that end, I’m culling all the political parties, national guards, churches, and social movements I could find, and updating the first sentence. I think it’s important that this list not be open to everything so that it remains navigable, but I recognize the boundaries are hard to define. Happy to continue discussing this. —jameslucas ^{▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄} 16:04, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I strongly disagree with this edit/culling. We have to be conscious of what the purpose of this article is, ie what utility it has for users. A combined list is useful for the sort of open source intelligence/visual identification guide needed by journalists, students, and academics. Someone outside a given country may not have the faintest idea whether a flag seen in a media photograph or video refers to a geographic entity or a political party or social movement. Having a master list will save an enormous amount of time and frustration for users. We can just subset the master lists into separate geographic entity and non-geographic (ie other entity) lists for those whose purposes require that.

Shorepine (talk) 00:02, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There doesn't seem to be any discussion happening here. Just an executive decision by fiat? No buy in for the combined list idea, so can we save the work of those dozens or hundreds of editors who added 'other entities' to the list, as it used to specify and allow, by creating a separate 'flags by color combination' list for 'other [non-geographic] entities'? so users searching for a flag, and not finding in the statist list can do a secondary search in the other list, and maybe not come away frustrated having found what they were looking for?

Shorepine (talk) 16:14, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Shorepine: Not all discussions happen in a day. All versions of articles are accessible indefinitely, so the content is not lost. For the short term, I think it makes sense to adopt an approach most in accordance with where a consensus is most likely to lie, and the best gauge I have for that is this discussion.

You set forth some objectives for this list that make sense. I also know that this page currently takes a long time to load compared to other articles and is cumbersome to navigate. There are tradeoffs to be made, and I’m open to discussing alternate structures that would make the most useful aspects quicker to load and navigate. There could be nations-only list, a region-and-city list, and then an unrestricted list. Or there could be a list for each color. Is a List of flags containing green crazy? What are your thoughts? —jameslucas ^{▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄} 17:45, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. But even this current list finds it useful to have entries for 'green flag', 'esperanto flag', 'al-qaeda', 'anarcho-syndicalist', etc. wikimedia has category pages that appear to autopopulate based on user tags of files. could something similar be implemented here, to break out the master list to particular sublists? for colors, types of entities, etc.? in any case, i am down to get the deleted flags back into some list by color. Shorepine (talk) 23:38, 17 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Gold?

Why does the article use the term "gold" instead of yellow? --Oddeivind (talk) 06:41, 2 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Did you read the lead? Significantly: yellows, golds, and oranges are grouped together as "gold" due to the lack of discrete divisions within this spectrum and the differing standards of interpretation of "gold", which appears in the legally codified specifications of many flags. Hoof Hearted (talk) 18:40, 7 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The top of the main article shows that the heraldic metals are listed first. But if we're using "gold", we should also use "silver". The terms (in English) are Or and Argent, which translate to gold and silver, and are represented by yellow and white. It appears to be inconsistent to use a translation for one metal, but a representation for the other. 124.171.199.112 (talk) 22:33, 17 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Makes sense to me (as demonstrated at Tincture (heraldry)#Metals), but I don't know if you can get that idea to "stick". I sense most users will not accept the US flag (for example) being filed under "silver, red, blue". Perhaps the key is the last part of that sentence and we should focus on how the flags are legally codified? Hoof Hearted (talk) 19:55, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As the editor largely responsible for this functional-but-not-strictly-logical division of the spectrum, I'll say that I opted to use 'white' for the reason suggested by Hoof Hearted and 'gold' because I thought that the word is easier to accept over a range of yellow and orange hues than either 'yellow' or 'orange' is. It's been too long since I was immersed in this matter to recall specific examples, but I know that on more than one occasion I came across a flag with a defined "yellow" that was closer to orange than another flag's defined "gold"—to say nothing of the majority of flags appearing on Wikipedia with no verifiable definition—and I decided that this part of the spectrum couldn't be untangled anytime soon. I don't think it's a perfect solution, but I've yet to find a better one. I'd be thrilled if we got the constitutional/legal language for all national flags as well as any official or semi-official RGB values where possible, but having spent a non-trivial amount of time trying to reconcile conflicting descriptions of the Haitian flag, I can say that this greater web of data-points will be challenging to codify and taxonomize. —jameslucas ^{▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄} 03:10, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The 'Gold, white' section was wrongly titled 'Gold, Red'. This led me through a long series of confused edits but I think I have got there now. Adding to the confusion was that the section contains various dark orange elements that I thought were red. I could not work out how to view the flags or descriptions of them. Is orange classified as gold? And please can someone check that section? (I think using the terms 'yellow' and 'orange' would be better for this reason. It looks really strange having them presented as one colour, even though I know they're no more different than shades of blue.) Salopian (talk) 11:52, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I see that you have actually explained the latter point in the intro as well as here. Fair enough, although it looks really, really strange. I think this is probably why someone had changed it to 'Red' in confusion as some of the oranges are so dark. Salopian (talk) 11:56, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hezbollah flag broken

The flag of Hezbollah here seems to be like, gone or something, just a blank space which you can't click on. Could someone more experienced with wiki editing than me go & fix it? Anothracountiges (talk) 16:40, 15 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Why not Nazi swastika flag?

You have Imperial Japanese military flag and Southern Confederate flag here. Why no Nazi flag? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.23.87.4 (talk) 06:59, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please ignore - I see the Nazi flag. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.23.87.4 (talk) 17:10, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Non-geographical flags

There's plenty of non-geographical flags in this list. They should be removed or the lead section should be extended to comprehend those flags. 186.158.132.121 (talk) 17:17, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Pirate flag

We need to put the pirate flag under the black flags 24.86.211.12 (talk) 01:13, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Melilla flag missing

Melilla flag is missing, here is the Melilla flag Nod3820 (talk) 15:15, 22 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Would you say it has six colors, or more? —Tamfang (talk) 05:12, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Criteria

I feel like we should have a more specific criteria for this page — personally I think the best option would to only include flags with their own dedicated page, as a place like Skała’s flag really isn’t notable enough to be on this page, especially with a population under 5,000. This would be something to consider for the long term, I wouldn’t expect such a massive change to happen instantly, but I think it should be kept in mind. TwinBoo (talk) 19:08, 22 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

While I definitely agree that articles that do have a standalone Wikipedia article warrant inclusion, I feel that this article would lose a lot of its usefulness as a navigation tool (one of the purposes of list articles) if we go with a criteria so narrow that flags cannot be included if they do not have an article yet. I visit this article frequently to learn about flags that I didn't already know about. As a reader, it helps that I can still click on articles about locations (rather than just articles about flags), and as an editor, this page can be a great resource to find flags that you could write a new article about. Deleting all flags that don't have standalone pages would be nuking the whole page.

I think there has to be at least one alternative way for a flag to warrant inclusion. Perhaps flags that don't have standalone articles can be included provided they have at least one or two reliable sources attached. As the flag files themselves generally have sources listed, that shouldn't be a high bar to clear and it should be possible to go down the list of flags we have now and add cite notes. The purpose of using sources as a criteria would not be to verify things that don't need to be verified (we don't need a source to state that a green flag is green), but rather to demonstrate that a flag is notable.

I do think this article could use some work, but I prefer the status quo to any nuclear option that would see the page gutted and stripped of its utility.

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Reordering?

I think we should reorder the colors to a new order. Instead of the current order, grayscales (white, gray, and black (in that order)) would be listed first, then the remaining colors: murrey, red, orange, yellow, tan, green, blue, purple, and pink, in that order. What do you think? 50.241.14.29 (talk) 19:11, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sort order not consistent for green & blue

Pending a complete overhaul, I suggest to reorder 5 color combinations to make their sequence consistent with the rest of the list. Suggested sequence, starting and ending with a combination that stays in place:

White, gold, black, red

White, gold, black, red, green
White, gold, black, red, green, blue
White, gold, black, red, green, blue, purple, brown, pink
White, gold, black, red, green, brown
White, gold, black, red, blue

White, gold, black, green

I would make the change myself if I hadn’t just deciphered the sorting sequence and don’t feel 100% sure yet that I’m correct. Geke (talk) 15:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Why Is There's No Russian Tsardom

I Feel Like Russian Tsardom Is Here BUT It's Not, Russian Tsardom Has White, Red and Blue, Please Put Russian Tsardom Between Russia and Saka Wikicountry123 (talk) 17:23, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]