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Is this a joke?

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I series question some of the entries on the list. What exactly is is the criteria? I'd think it would be a character specifically saying they don't believe in God or they question his existence, but some on this list seem to be based on a belief in evolution or something similar. Belief in evolution is not the equivalent of atheism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.106.209.61 (talk) 16:19, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Garibaldi of TV series Babylon 5 (I am using a computer network that does not allow me to go to youtube to find the episode, it was in one of the early ones) and to the "joke" comment above: I do think it is necessary to list things like that because of the situation in the US. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.174.11.19 (talk) 08:50, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Joey Tribiani

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Should Joey Tribiani from US sitcom 'Friends' be on this list? Although it is only mentioned in one episode, he states his opinion that he 'don't believe any of that' and that 'when you're dead, you're dead. You're worm food'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.177.21 (talk) 2009-08-07T11:42:07

Not believing in a afterlife doesn't conclusively rule out belief in god.Squeakymutation (talk) 02:35, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Dean Winchester

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should dean winchester from supernatural be on this list? despite the fact that he stated he didn't believe in angels in a (season 3?) episode, he was proven wrong later on, in fact has encounters with them in nearly every episode (castiel). so i doubt he's atheist now. 64.118.18.27 (talk) 00:22, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Malcolm Reynolds (Firefly, Serenity)

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Malcolm Reynolds trusted his god to help the rebels win the battle of Serenity Valley, and when they lost he became angry at his god and stopped trusting it, but he still believes it exists. In other words, he is a maltheist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.47.95.215 (talk) 12:22, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

focus of article

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Is there an article "Atheism in fiction"? I was more expecting characters from classic novels, like by Leo Tolstoy for instance. Steve Dufour (talk) 15:36, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is this article fake?

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Really it states that charecters in childrens cartoon series Pokemon are atheists. --EvilFlyingMonkey (talk) 09:54, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can you cite where the show says some of the characters in the Pokemon series are atheist? --Squeakymutation (talk) 02:23, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


"Notability"

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Atheists are a grossly underrepresented minority. There are thousands of Black and Hispanic and women characters but you can probably list the "out" atheist characters who have appeared on television on one hand. Maybe two. Steve Landesburg's landmark Dietrich and Hugh Laurie's Gregory House are two of them. The significance of this web page is to record that atheists are, indeed, as much brushed under the carpet in modern times as they were in ancient. It's also worth noting the unfortunate stereotyping of atheists as profoundly emotionally screwed-up intellectuals. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.91.195.249 (talk) 18:12, 22 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Tara Thornton on True Blood

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States she was an atheist in the season 4 finale — Preceding unsigned comment added by Idxcue (talkcontribs) 09:43, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cleaned up some

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Ok, I've gone through and reorganized everything by media. If anyone would like to know, I've removed a couple of duplicates and these two entries (neither were easily sortable nor had references, so if someone wants to reference them and put them back in here they are,

Also: I'm going to go ahead and challenge all unsourced entries on here and delete them sometime in the next week today. If you believe a character /should/ be on the list please reference properly. Thanks! Ncboy2010 (talk) 16:08, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've decided that I'll go ahead and remove everything that's not referenced and post the list of unreferenced characters here so they can be referenced and re-added. (my decision changed because I see the factual accuracy has been disputed since 2010 and no one's really addressed the issue.) Thanks! Ncboy2010 (talk) 16:11, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Removed Entries

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Below you will see a list of entries I have removed sorted by the section they were removed from. If you want to and can reference and re-add something from this list, please feel free to remove it or strikethru. Thanks! Ncboy2010 (talk) 16:25, 31 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Literature

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Comics

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Video games

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Film

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Television

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Animation

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References

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Literature....

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The thinness of the literature section is really problematic. Is there a notability criterion? There isn't any way to limit ourselves to "serious" literature, so I suppose 'has a Wikipedia article' is our notability bar. Alas. But in any case: many characters in books are portrayed as atheists (and agnostics, but I find the 'and' problematic as it implies they are mutually exclusive positions). Surely we can't use all of them, but as this article currently stands it would appear there have only been two in all of fiction.Zythe (talk) 23:14, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Some potential additions

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Sorry, I really can't give a certain reference for this characters but:

  • Sara Sidle, from CSI, stated she's is an agnostic. That happened in an episode in which the forensic team was investigating in a convent (she had this conversation with Grissom, when he stated he is a "Christian of the origins" or somenthing similar).
  • Spartacus from the Starz's series of the same name, stated repeatedly he doesn't believe in any god.
  • I'm pretty sure that Billy isn't the only Battlestar Galactica's atheist character. I remember Will Adama is too, but maybe some other (his son?).

Sorry, I can't provide references on the web, but I'm sure of what I saw in these series, and I hope someone else can find a sure source in order to add them to this list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.59.198.88 (talk) 14:22, 16 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sarah Jane Smith

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Could someone provide a reference to support the claim that this character is an atheist or agnostic? A supporting quotation from a show she appeared on would be good. --Smcg8374 (talk) 03:50, 22 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pokémon

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Is there ANY source or evidence for the statement that Ash Ketchum is an atheist? I've watched especially the older episodes of Pokémon and there is no mention of religions whatsoever, so how can we tell he is an atheist? Where are the statements mentioned in this list from?--31.16.72.21 (talk) 22:49, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Angel Clare

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I thought the addition of Angel Clare was important as a central figure of agnosticism in literature. My description could possibly use more about his character rather than just his agnosticism, but I put what I thought was relevant to the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilith Rosabella (talkcontribs) 22:16, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]