Talk:List of excepted hereditary peers

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Christopher Bathurst, 3rd Viscount Bledisloe

Is someone going to replace him?Max Mux (talk) 12:18, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to the parliament website there will be a by-election: http://news.parliament.uk/2009/05/death-of-viscount-bledisloe/

Compared to the last such election it could be several months away. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.242.236.114 (talk) 16:36, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Royal Peers

When it says "...excepting 2 Royal office holders" does that mean that Duke of Edinburgh and the Duke of Cornwall still have the right to sit in the House? The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 09:56, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No, it is referring to the Earl Marshal and Lord Great Chamberlain. -Rrius (talk) 10:34, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yes I remember, that right went when it was discovered they hadn't taken the Oath of Allegence The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 11:31, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Disappointing

Very informative about the HoL as an institution but sadly lacking in information about its actual location - who sits where, what are the seats down the middle for, and that table in the middle Picknick99 Picknick99 (talk) 16:06, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Also, what is the woolsack stuffed with? 2A00:23C7:E284:CF00:306D:E084:6873:165F (talk) 22:37, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Baron Grantchester

“John Suenson-Taylor, 3rd Baron Grantchester (left the house in 1999)”

What does that mean?? There is nothing about it on his page. 2A00:23C7:E284:CF00:306D:E084:6873:165F (talk) 22:39, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It means he got kicked out in 1999 because of the House of Lords Act as a hereditary peer. The C of E God Save the Queen! (talk) 23:13, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Titles in peerage

So concerning the peerage titles, it seems that they are not relevant to the article as the peers don't represent specific peerages in the House of Lords. The only place where it might be relevant is in case of Irish peers, who hold junior titles in other peerages, but those are already accounted for appropriately on the election pages. These peerage flags have been removed from the election pages in the past as, per MOS:FLAG, "Flag icons may be relevant in some subject areas, where the subject actually represents that country or nationality – such as military units or national sports teams. In lists or tables, flag icons may be relevant when such representation of different subjects is pertinent to the purpose of the list or table itself.", which does not apply here. In addition, the column fails to take into account that several peers hold titles in different peerages. For example, the Duke of Montrose's senior title is in the peerage of Scotland, but he also has titles in the Peerage of Great Britain. 67.173.23.66 (talk) 17:11, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, true regarding the flags. Removed those and made some edits to try and clarify matters. Whether the columns and headings as they now are any more helpful or redundant to the article, I'll leave it up for discussion. Appreciate the input.Aumnamahashiva (talk) 18:10, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Rupert Carington, 7th Baron Carrington

He's been chosen to act as Lord Great Chamberlain, which is an ex officio member. Would that mean that his seat among the elected hereditary peers is now vacant? How should the page present that? 2601:241:300:B610:E0B6:EFC4:47D5:E4BE (talk) 19:02, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

alignments

If a member changes party, do they resign? Does the quota shift? —Tamfang (talk) 06:49, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

When a hereditary peer changes party there is no compulsion for that person to resign and there is no attempt to rebalance the quota. As far as I can see, no hereditary peer who has shifted affiliation since 1999 has later died or otherwise left the Lords, so there is no precedent for how this would be handled in by-elections to the House of Lords. As hereditary peers appear to be on the way out this will likely never be tested. LukeSurl^t c 11:47, 16 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the 4th Earl of Selborne, who was elected in 1999 by the Conservative hereditary peers, resigned from the Conservative Party in 2019 and became non-affiliated. He retired from the House of Lords in 2020 and his place was filled in a Conservative hereditary peers' by-election. In addition, the Viscount Falkland, who was elected as a Liberal Democrat by the Whole House in 1999, changed to the Crossbench group in 2011. He retired from the House in 2023 and a Liberal Democrat was elected in his place by the Whole House. It seems that the successor is elected from the original party or group of the departed hereditary peer. --Editor FIN (talk) 06:58, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]