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Eunice Barber

According to her IAAF profile [1] she "[b]ecame French citizen in 1999". Her EAA profile states that she "received French naturalisation in December 1998". [2] According to another IAAF source, Changes of Allegiance, [3] she moved to Sierra Leone from France in June 1999. And back to France in August 2000. Punkmorten 06:46, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Remember Sierra Leone is a French colony, so I believe, but don't quote me on this, that their citizens can live and work in France. So where she actually lived might be misleading. The key is who did she compete for and when did that transfer occur. David D. (Talk) 06:58, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, a quick check shows it is a British colony. But do you agree she did not change from French to Sierra Leone citizenship and back? (that is one of the corrections I made to the table) The year issue will obviously be harder to confirm, although i tend to go with the IAAF. David D. (Talk) 07:02, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just noted at the IAAF site that they say "she was the winner at European Cup 1999 (6505 points)". If correct this indicates that she was competing for France prior to 2000 which was the original date in the table. From an athletics perspective the date of her first competition for France is the most significance. I don't think she competed for France in 1998, so 1999 seems to be the most accurate from the sports perspective. David D. (Talk) 07:25, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. I was just about to post this: From the sources it does look like she switched to FRA, then to SLE shortly after and then back to FRA... but that might be wrong. A comparison shows that she did not show up in the Commonwealth Top Performers 1980-2005: Women (Outdoor) in 1999 and 2000, when she would have topped the long jump ranking with 7.01 and 6.85 respectively. So she didn't compete for SLE at the time. I'm puzzled why the Changes of Allegiance list claims so, though. Punkmorten 07:32, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. I wonder what she was thinking? Certainly this is the first i have heard of it. Good research. David D. (Talk) 18:14, 7 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Israel?

When did Israel become a European country? True, they may be member of the European federation in Athletics, but that is not what the headline says - it says that certain athletes have transferred to countries in Europe. And last time I checked, Israel was in Asia.--80.202.107.217 14:16, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Member of EAA = European country as far as this list goes. Punkmorten 16:35, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As they say in the real estate game, its location, location, location. All of the Middle East is recognized geographically as being in Asia, except for the Western portion of Turkey on the other side of the Bosphorus. Turkey is an exceptional borderline country that straddles two continents, with the majority of its largest city Istanbul being in Europe while the rest of the population being in Asia. Other exceptions are Russia generally called part of Europe though most of its land is in Asia, Kazakhstan generally being called part of Asia, Georgia (country) and Azerbaijan being primarily in Europe but frequently considered as part of Asia because of the close association to neighboring Armenia. Egypt and Panama also technically straddle continents separated by man made canals across the ismus. Being members of any organization might cross over border lines, Guadeloupe and Martinique in the Caribbean are part of France. With all these possible exceptions and confusions, for the general public to understand, we should stick with recognized geographic continents.Trackinfo (talk) 16:25, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well most of Egypt is in Africa not Asia, as are the other North African countries eg Libya which are sometimes included in the Greater Middle East Part of the Caribbean is in the Netherlands; plus parts of Oceania eg French Polynesia in France etc Hugo999 (talk) 20:39, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mebrahtom Keflezighi et al

A casual view of this list shows a drift from accurate (those on the IAAF list and thus referenced) and the inclusion of cases like Mebrahtom Keflezighi, Felix Sanchez or the omission of Andrew Howe. All of those cases are questionable. Keflezighi and Sanchez both grew up in the San Diego area. Keflezighi was there since the age of 12, meaning 1987, and has never run for another country. Sanchez ran high school and collegiately in the USA, then switched nationality when running internationally. Howe went the opposite direction, born in Los Angeles, he went to Italy as a child and has never run for another country but Italy. Between Howe and Keflezighi equal standards should apply and neither should be on the list. Sanchez is the only one to have remotely made a switch, though never officially since he has never competed internationally for the USA.Trackinfo (talk) 15:40, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This gives Keflezighi as an Eritrean in 1997. Geschichte (talk) 20:19, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- I see that, but I still think that is a mis-interpretation, possibly due to location of birth or even at the time, citizenship (the US is incredibly slow processing paperwork though that would have been ten years). NCAA competition is not international competition. Did Keflezighi choose to represent Eritrea at that time? Trackinfo (talk) 00:21, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Seeing as he has no results from 1997 registered in his IAAF profile, my guess is that he was not good enough to compete internationally at the time. Geschichte (talk) 09:13, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - And that same record shows he competed in the United States Championships in 1998. The (sub-referenced) IAAF document for 1998 does not show his name as a change of allegiance in 1998, when it would have had to have occurred. I say the referencing does not support him making a change--the nature of this page. I'll take his name off the page.Trackinfo (talk) 09:46, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      - Similarly it seems Felix Sanchez was already declared as DOM before he ever reached the level of competing internationally. Same for Sanya Richards and Jerome Young, both competing in the USA as high schoolers, well before they were International level. I'm sure there are more.Trackinfo (talk) 09:57, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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This whole article is a nonsense

This whole article is a nonsense, athletes don't switch from a nation to another but from an association/federation to another ! Frenchl (talk) 15:46, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]