Talk:List of countries and dependencies by population/Archive 12
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Correct date of San marino's population data source.
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Change San Marino population data source date from 29 February 2023 (which is incorrect according to the source and doesn't exist) to 29 February 2024. IntrospectiveSwallows (talk) 09:10, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Done PianoDan (talk) 16:37, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2024
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Thailand population is now 71,881,336. 11edetrs (talk) 02:03, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 19:04, 10 June 2024 (UTC)
About the German population date
Germany's official population date is wrong, because it should be March 31 in particular. 181.197.204.240 (talk) 23:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
Add European Union population
It would be helpful to see the European Union total population between China and the United States. Leave it unranked, as the EU is not a country, formatted in the list like the world total population and territories/dependencies. January 2024 EU total population estimate: 449.2 million https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Population_and_population_change_statistics#:~:text=Looking%20at%20the%20bigger%20picture,per%20year%20during%20the%201960s. ResearchbyAlec (talk) 19:13, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's been discussed a number of times [1]
- Usually the reason for not including it is because there's quite a few international organizations, none of which are countries. Wizmut (talk) 03:00, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
Sovereign Order of Malta
Would there be any problem with adding the Knights of Malta to the table? Their actual physical sovereign territory consists of only a handful of offices but apparently they have a number of Knights who hold only citizenship of the Order and they do issue passports recognized for world travel. The official number of Knights is 13,500. Pascalulu88 (talk) 13:50, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- Usually just the entries in the ISO 3166-1 and partially recognized states are in the list. Wizmut (talk) 14:35, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- OK, I checked and, as of 2017, the code assigned to the Sovereign Military Order of Malta is XOM. So does that mean I can add them to the table? Their passports are recognized by 113 countries. Pascalulu88 (talk) 19:34, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- That code isn't from the ISO and it's not a state, so I would say not. Wizmut (talk) 21:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- It's a sovereignty but not a state? It issues passports recognized by states but it's not itself a state? I think that, as a unique sovereign entity, it is more interesting to include it in the list than to exclude it. Uniqueness is not a disparagement. Pascalulu88 (talk) 19:59, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Exclusion is not a disparagement. Lists are not "list of interesting things", they have specific criteria. See WP:LISTCRITERIA. Wizmut (talk) 21:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- No, but making a list of sovereign entities more interesting may be seen as a good thing by curious users of our encyclopedia. If we were compiling the list before 1929, the Vatican would have been in an analogous position to the Knights of Malta. Pascalulu88 (talk) 23:33, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Exclusion is not a disparagement. Lists are not "list of interesting things", they have specific criteria. See WP:LISTCRITERIA. Wizmut (talk) 21:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- It's a sovereignty but not a state? It issues passports recognized by states but it's not itself a state? I think that, as a unique sovereign entity, it is more interesting to include it in the list than to exclude it. Uniqueness is not a disparagement. Pascalulu88 (talk) 19:59, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- That code isn't from the ISO and it's not a state, so I would say not. Wizmut (talk) 21:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
- OK, I checked and, as of 2017, the code assigned to the Sovereign Military Order of Malta is XOM. So does that mean I can add them to the table? Their passports are recognized by 113 countries. Pascalulu88 (talk) 19:34, 2 August 2024 (UTC)