Talk:List of cities in Lithuania

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The list is very nice. Good work with the pronunciation files and coat of arms. It can probably be a featured list some day. / Fred-Chess 14:25, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sortable list[edit]

thousands' commas must be removed from numbers in order for it to become useful. Iulius 11:00, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

yes, I know. But I hope they are going to fix this bug because commas are useful... Renata 12:52, 27 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Terminology[edit]

A city of 300 people? That sounds more like a hamlet! Have we got our terminology and translation right? Does the Lithuanian language have different words for different sizes of settlement? And how do they equate to city, town, village and hamlet? In England a village may have as many as 10,000 people. In German there is only one word for city/town - Stadt - a status granted under town rights and how it is translated depends on size. Typically those with a population of 100,000 or more would be translated as cities in English. Just askin'.Bermicourt (talk) 16:43, 25 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The article explains how the "city" is defined. A city of 300 people is an anomaly, since, by law, all "cities" that have historically had city rights retain the title "city", even if they have not grown in the last 600 years.No longer a penguin (talk) 13:49, 30 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Reverts by Respublik[edit]

Please explain your reverts. - Altenmann >talk 19:59, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The term "city" has specific meaning in Lithuania. See the introduction of the article. - Altenmann >talk 20:00, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Towns/Cities[edit]

@Altenmann The fact that a place may gain or lose recognition as a city at 3,000 citizens does not affect the list, as legislative decisions to change a city's status must be taken, and have not been for any cities on the list. There are examples of cities that lost the status in the notes. Respublik (talk) 20:02, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also please use the talk page BEFORE making controversial changes, not vice verse. Respublik (talk) 20:03, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you say so, then I will remove the whole table as unreferenced. Unless proven otherwise, we have to stick to the official definition involving "3,000" and only change the settlement type if there is a reference. You say: have not been for any cities on the list -- you cannot prove that something "not been", only "been". Also, your statement is wrong: the places were assigned the type by default when the legislation about "3,000" was passed. I did see some exceptions were recognized. Also, please provide the reference to your claim "legislative decisions to change a city's status must be taken" and add it to the article. - Altenmann >talk 20:15, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I didin see my changes as controversial, because they were made in accordnce to Linthuanian law. And in English wikipedia people tend to be sloppy with usage of terms "city" vs "town". - Altenmann >talk 20:17, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to discuss removing the entire table in another section. And your interpretations of the "Linthuanian law" seem to ignore even having read the sources tables, however weirdly someone made it. As stated there, there are legal definitions of "city" and "town", a seperate list for towns based on that definition (List of towns in Lithuania) and these are not somehow automatically sorted by the population size. [1].

In Lithuanian:

Mažiau kaip 3 tūkst. gyventojų turintys Lietuvos Respublikos miestai, rajonų miestai bei miesto tipo gyvenvietės, turėję miesto statusą, kaip gyvenamosios vietovės yra laikomi miestais ir įsigaliojus Lietuvos Respublikos teritorijos administracinių vienetų ir jų ribų įstatymui.

Respublik (talk) 20:41, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Also, were you to look up the talk page ahead of editing, this was already explained 8 years ago by @No longer a penguin. Respublik (talk) 20:56, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Maybe you are right. It looks like our wikipedia articles are confusing. - Altenmann >talk 23:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My two cents: "city" and "town" are legal status of a settlement determined by the Seimas. Technically, cities should have at least 3,000 residents, but a whole lot of smaller settlements are "grandfathered" into the status and reaching 3000 population does not automatically guarantee it would be "upgraded" to a city status. It's really idiosyncratic. Renata•3 21:29, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]