Talk:List of chicken breeds
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Droppsburgh Redd
[edit]Why isn't the Droppsburgh Redd listed? Deng.x.ping (talk) 05:35, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
- Because it is not recognized as even existing as a true breed by the American Poultry Association, it's not mentioned in any of the major books listing breeds, and there is no other reliable published source which speaks on the subject. A very minor commercial strain is not necessarily a separate breed. VanTucky 19:04, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
- How do I submit the Droppsburgh Redd to the American Poultry Association? Surely there must be other international organizations that certify and recognize chicken breeds (American Kennel Club vs. English Kennel Club for example).
- As for "minor commercial strain", while only EDSI maintains all rights to the use of the Droppsburgh Redd, I wouldn't call the breed "minor". Thanks for your input however. Deng.x.ping (talk) 11:34, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
- So I can assume that's the same reason that the Sapphire Gem is not listed either. Perhaps a page could be made for unofficial breeds, or is that against one of the standards of the wiki? Cause maybe we could give other people reliable info, as usual, on this wiki on chicken breeds that are really hard to find non-opinionated info elsewhere. Or maybe a page on unofficial breeds already exists.
- Chicken enthusiast speaking here, so... yeah. MynaDarkthunder (talk) 02:05, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
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Fake breeds
[edit]I am finding a increasing problem as I got through this article; many of the breeds which have red links have them for a good reason. They don't exist! - I can find no mention of them anywhere on the net, and in my poultry books and the various poultry standards. I have removed some of these breeds already, but there is an enormous amount of them. It would be great if other people would help my track down this problem and stop this continued spammage of the list. Anjwalker Talk 03:58, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Globalize
[edit]Am I imagining it, or does the lead section appear to have a somewhat restricted viewpoint? A statement such as "the most commonly used of such standards is the Standard of Perfection" may be true in the United States, but is unlikely to be equally true in, say, Belgium or Viet Nam. Why are British standards especially important in Europe? In how many countries would it be demonstrably true to say that only "breeds ... included in these publications ... are eligible to be shown competitively"? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:26, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed, the lead section does have a restricted view. This table may help. I'm sure there are others, but these are some.
Nation/Country | Poultry standard used |
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United Kingdom | British Poultry Standard |
Ireland | British Poultry Standard |
Australia | Australian Poultry Standard |
New Zealand | British Poultry Standard |
United States of America | Standard of Perfection |
Canada | Standard of Perfection |
France | Standard officiel des poules naines |
The Netherlands | Dutch Poultry Standard[1] |
Although wording may require editing, it is very close to the truth at the moment. I believe there is also a German poultry standard, but I couldn't find any information on it, and otherwise there are very few poultry standards. Anjwalker Talk 01:43, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for making those edits, which I see as an improvement. As a newcomer here I did not want to make radical changes without discussion. I imagine that most developed Western countries are likely to have some kind of poultry breed standard. That for Spain is published by the Ministerio de Medio Ambiente y Medio Rural y Marino, for France by the SCAF, for Belgium by the Vereniging ter Promotie van Belgische Neerhofdieren, for Italy by the Federazione Italiana Associazioni Avicole, for Germany by the Bund Deutscher Rassegeflügelzüchter, and so on. Those are easily located and consulted. I believe, however, that the lead section should make clear that while this may be the case in developed countries, it is less likely to be true of less developed parts of the world, where indeed western concepts such as "breed" and "showing" may be of limited relevance, and where the identification of local populations may still be incomplete. Of course it's also much harder to determine whether, say, Albania or Laos does in fact have breed standards because their languages are pretty impenetrable to most of us. Does that make any sense? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:46, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
- Yes, it does make sense. I believe there are standards in many of the South East Asian/Australasian nations, Thailand as a notable one, but as you said, unless someone who knows the language is available, those standards are not incomprehensible. And even if you could translate them, most apply to the standards of breeding for cock fighting; the standards of body shape, health, comb size and such. I don't believe they have standards for colours such as the western world does. Anjwalker Talk 03:10, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Missing breeds
[edit]Colloncas, Quechua, Quetros. http://madbushfarm.blogspot.com/2009/03/chicken-breeds-we-use-here-on-farm.html http://www.backyardchickens.com/t/643128/rare-central-south-american-south-pacific-breeds/10 http://lasdunas.blogspot.es/ 99.11.160.111 (talk) 08:02, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Armenia
[edit]Though Armenia is listed in the contents it is not on the actual list. I would guess it used to be? Anyway, a lot of the breeds on this list are not very notable (it seems only half even have their own pages). I know of a good of number poultry breeds and I have never heard of many of these. I would suspect many of them are rarely seen outside their country of origin. Not that I am saying there is necessarily anything wrong with them being listed here (it is a list of all chicken breeds), but finding any information on them and even proving that they are distinct breeds could be difficult. --As the Crow Flies (talk) 11:49, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
My latter comments were not necessary. As the Crow Flies (talk) 20:19, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
I've removed Armenia. As the Crow Flies (talk) 19:21, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Friesian
[edit]I added the Friesian to the Netherlands section, though as far as I know, it could be the same thing as the Fries Hoen. In the German section there appears to be a list of bantams, and to my knowledge (obviously excluding True Bantams) miniatures are not treated as separate breeds from the standard version. I am also not sure why they are in the German section, Were they created in Germany? I was just wondering. As the Crow Flies (talk) 20:14, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
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[edit]I was working on a Wiki [[1]] before a found this one, and was wondering if we could incorporate my draft page into this larger page. I have been reading down this page and realized that even though it has a lot of good links and a HUGE list of chicken breeds, I feel that it is more helpful if you want to learn more about a specific breed of chickens, rather than actually comparing those many breeds. I created a Work In Progress chart outlining the key details along with an image of a Hen and Rooster, mostly designed to help you decide on a chicken to purchase. For example, if someone wanted a new chicken and was looking down the page, they could look for ones with specific details ex. lays many eggs. A while back I found a page very similar to this, but it was locked and hadn't been updated with many missing images and broken links. If I find that page I will link it here, but for now, I was just wondering if we could add a section like that to this page. Tell me what you think.
Thanks! (KyGuy2002) (Talk) 21:43, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Well, KyGuy2002, any suggestions on how this page could be improved are always welcome! As I understand it, this list is meant to be just that, a list of breeds from around the world, with links to those that we already have articles about; following one of those links allows you to learn more about that breed. There are also country-specific lists, such as List of Belgian chicken breeds (a page I made), with images and a little more detail. One thing: we aren't in the business of helping people to buy a chicken, and we don't organise our pages to help people do that. I've looked at your draft and don't really see any information that isn't included in our articles on those various breeds; did I miss something? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 22:05, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply, and yes Justlettersandnumbers, you are very right this page is not supposed to be a "guide to what chicken is best for you", but I really meant that I think it should be a little bit easier to compare different breeds and "filter" specific types of birds. A different example would be if someone would like to know all the different breeds that lay many eggs, then in the current setup it would require someone to manually click through EVERY single link and read more. Like you said, all this information is already present in this article, but it seems like a bit of a pain to have to click on every single link to learn more about each chicken, and I feel that we could at least provide some quick details on each chicken, that then can be expanded on in the actual page. Maybe this is too much of "helping people find the right chicken" as mentioned before, but I just think its another way of listing different breeds. Tell me what you think.
Thanks! (KyGuy2002) (Talk) 00:54, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the reply, and yes Justlettersandnumbers, you are very right this page is not supposed to be a "guide to what chicken is best for you", but I really meant that I think it should be a little bit easier to compare different breeds and "filter" specific types of birds. A different example would be if someone would like to know all the different breeds that lay many eggs, then in the current setup it would require someone to manually click through EVERY single link and read more. Like you said, all this information is already present in this article, but it seems like a bit of a pain to have to click on every single link to learn more about each chicken, and I feel that we could at least provide some quick details on each chicken, that then can be expanded on in the actual page. Maybe this is too much of "helping people find the right chicken" as mentioned before, but I just think its another way of listing different breeds. Tell me what you think.
A couple of incorrect links that I don't how to fix
[edit]I note that 2 links to Wikipedia pages are incorrect:
Under France, the Gasconne breed has a link to the Gasconne cattle breed (https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Gasconne.) The Gasconne chicken doesn't have a page of its own, so shouldn't this link be removed?
Under UK, the Burford Brown is linked to the "Egg as Food" page (https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Egg_as_food) with a note at the top of that page stating " (Redirected from Burford Brown)" on the top left under the title. There is no specific reference to the Burford Brown on the "Egg as Food" page, so since the Burford Brown has no page of its own, there shouldn't be a link to any page at all. I've left a note on the "Egg as Food" page mentioning this as well.
I can do minor changes, but linking etc. is a little out of my editing knowledge/experience at this time, so I will leave these corrections to a more experienced person. Tzali (talk) 22:01, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
Types of Asyl chickens
[edit]Asil or Asil is a Pakistani breed or group of chicken breeds which is very popular all over the world. This hobby is spread all over the world. And there are many types of it. Which are as follows. Aseelmurge (talk) 08:28, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Types of asyl chickens
[edit]Types of Asyl chickens: Types of Asyl chickens are as follows. 1_Sindy breed. 2_Miawali breed. 3_ Begum Naseel. 4_Techri breed.there are many other races. But let's talk about these breeds. The first ones that are famous in the world are the Miawali breed. Yes, the Miawali breed is one of the most famous breeds. There are.And most importantly, they are very good at fighting. - And the most important thing about them is that they fight very well
their limbs are also white. 2_Sindy breed.breed is that their height is very big. Approximately 15, 16 inches can be their height. The biggest sign of them is what I tell you.3_Tukri breed. Now we are talking about Takri breed. It is the third breed in Pakistan. This breed is also very beautiful breed. The most important sign of this is that their limbs are spread.4_ Descendants of Begum. The worst sign of this breed is that they grow up in Kargil.Now the picture I see below for my brothers is a picture of Miawali Aseelmurge (talk) 17:35, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
Anchors
[edit]Hello @Ineffablebookkeeper: Apologies for doing that. Anchors with the same location and name as a section header have no effect. Invasive Spices (talk) 8 May 2022 (UTC)
- @Invasive Spices: ah, see, my thinking was that since they were subheadings (===), the anchors would be necessary, as in the past, I think I somehow picked up that links to subheadings just did not work? I'm not sure what I must have been doing wrong there, because a quick test (for instance, Folk costume#Eastern Europe) seems to work just fine. Not to worry.--Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) ({{ping}} me!) 15:09, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
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