Talk:List of capoeira techniques
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Style Bias
[edit]This article is good, but very wrong. This is almost on the verge of a biased article.You can't give one group's style without explaining any of the others. For example, I study under the group Axe Capoeira, and we learn Resistencia as what you call Negativa; your Esquiva de Baixa is our Esquiva de Frente. Also, you recognize the existance of Angola and Regional, but never talk about the applications of moves in Benguela. Logical cube 04:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Great start Guyinblack25. I'd think about categorizing the techniques into kicks, esquivas, floreos, take downs and ... Focomoso 06:33, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thank you. Unfortunately, my knowledge of capoeira is very limited. What little I do know is self-taught from instructional videos and the large amount video clips on the web(which doesn't really provide too much practical knowledge). I simply saw a large number of stubs that shared a common thread. Hopefully users with a more accurate knowledge base can help expand and organize the article beyond the splicing and dicing I did with the stubs. If you have any ideas, go for it, "be bold", remember. (Guyinblack25 18:39, 10 April 2007 (UTC))
- As regards the technique names, I'm really not certain what can be done short of listing all of the possible names in a given header. And, as can be seen in the Au Batido/Quebrado/Amazonica/etc entry, this could get out of hand very quickly. *grumble* My kingdom for a standards board! :-p -Fuzzy (talk) 12:20, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Cabecada picture
[edit]Solucao: The chosen cabecada picture is awful: the worse cabecada I've seen in my life (it seems that a newbie-cabecada).
WP:NOT#GUIDE
[edit]Article is growing but still doesn't meet criteria WP:NOT#GUIDE—Wikipedia is an encyclopedic reference, not an instruction manual, guidebook or textbook. Maybe we should discuss here about ideas how to improve article according to WP guidelines. My suggestion is to move detailed advices to Wikibooks and shorten movements in this list to a brief description. Visor (talk) 19:26, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
We need to include the cultural aspects of the practice, which I believe are nearly universal. These would include the different tambourine and Conga drum rhythms, ladainhas, berimbau tunes and folklore performances such as Maculelê, sambas and even puxada de rede. Chamadas are only popular with some schools but still form part of the greater whole. If these are covered elsewhere, then some links will be in order. I will be watching this page for the next couple of weeks. I was a rookie with a few classes from Grupo Ginga, organized a roda in Austin and have been working more on vocabulary than moves in the intervening 18 years. I will gladly pitch in, and I must say I am impressed at the wealth of correct information already here. translator (talk) 03:32, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Reference / HowTo
[edit]Another decent reference site is available at [1]. Not mine but interesting. 29 June, 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.244.0.23 (talk) 09:59, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
I've been meaning to get back to this article for a while now, but just haven't gotten around to it. At work now on a 15 minute break, so I can't really get anything in now. But, while trying to find whether "xango" was an actual technique (It's apparently a name for a back handspring like the macaco, but I was familiar with Xango only as a multi-level marketing scheme for a health drink), I ran into a fairly nice page on the techniques complete with diagrams at [2]. Maybe someone can use that to fill in a few of the empty headers in here.
Secondly, one of the topics which has come up a couple times is trying to avoid a "how to" explanation of the techniques (which frankly is a bit difficult without diagrams or animations since a lot of the "how to" is required to explain how one move differs from the other) and I think the suggestion of a WikiBook entry has been made. I'm a bit conflicted about trying to rough one out based on what I know and what I've gleaned from the article. First, I'm new at the style so I can't really offer that much to it. Secondly, I wonder how much good it is to describe how to do the techniques in an online book. I think most of them really require an instructor to tell you what you're doing wrong. But, then again, it could serve as a valuable repository of little tips involving where body weight goes and tricks on how to refine a particular technique, or at least get started. What do you guys think? -Fuzzy (talk) 12:24, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Och... and we seem to moving back to how-to with some of these explanations. Ferradura, I very much appreciate your contributions, but it is tilting things towards how-to right now. *shrug* But maybe that's OK in this situation. Better too much information than too little, I guess, and sometimes it can be hard explaining how one technique varies from the next without explaining "how to". -Fuzzy (talk) 12:18, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
Troca De Pé revert
[edit]Honestly, I thought that the anonymous poster's edit made more sense in some ways. I know what a negativa is because it's a static position. A rôle ranges through a lot more positions and doesn't always end in a negativa. I'm going to change it back, but I wanted to open a dialogue on what's the right thing to put there. -Fuzzy (talk) 14:57, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Walking on your hands and kicks
[edit]I noticed this section hand walking - it seems to me that it sort of links to some of the floreios I've seen - with players jumping or walking on hands, and walking being more about turning to face people (with the ever present inviting temptation for their opponent to deliver a cabecada - but that's sometimes resisted knowing it's a trap of some sort - I always thought the slap on the to of the head kick was called 'Chapéu-de-Couro' - very similar to the one described in 'Aú Batido' except from a handstand and forward toward the opponent rather than slightly stylised toward the side as I think I usually see leque. I don't recognise the kick you describe in the 'Chapéu-de-Couro' section. EdwardLane (talk) 11:35, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
Descriptive vs Manual
[edit]Hi Fuzzy. Really sorry for the super late reply. 5 years it seems. I was helping expand on the article during my Achilles tendon rupture. I was also rather new to Wikipedia. Basically I found some of the techniques were just to difficult to describe without some instruction because of their unorthodox movements or close variations in the names of each one. I honestly think that more gif. and jpgs. will help cure this. One thing that I can say is that our little Capoeira project here has really improved over the past 7 years and looks a lot more intensive then many of the other sister pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lawrence253 (talk • contribs) 16:18, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
Grammar and More use of Gifs and media
[edit]I remember that my goal for working on this page was to be as informative and descriptive as humanly possible. Coming across it now does make it seem rather like another instruction manual. I was going to fix a lot of my grammar and add way more media. Any other ideas? Please let me know.
I think resistincia is missing
[edit]just a note to say that resistincia is mentioned as a move you can move to from pont - but no description of it (unless I've missed it ?) EdwardLane (talk) 18:05, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
Translation for move names?
[edit]I was wondering if there should be some comparison between the moves in capoeira and the ones in other martial arts. Keeping all the names in portuguese is fine, but it would be nice to say, this is like that move in that martial art, or it belong to this group of moves, wouldn't it? For instance, *I think* rasteira is like a Foot sweep or a deashi barai from judo. Mysablehats (talk) 11:11, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
Carpado is Plagiarized
[edit]The section for Carpado is a word-for-word copy of its secion on lalaue.com (https://www.lalaue.com/moves/carpado). Wikipedia is supposed to be plagiarism-free, so this has to change.