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This list is a by-product of working through articles in Category:Station stubs, which explains why most of the entries at this point are stubs. User:Ceyockey 12:10, 2005 May 26 (UTC)

Guidelines for expansion:When adding new localities, please try to use the format "(City) (station) (college / university)" and when adding a new item for a listed locality, please use the format "::(station) (college / university)"; in either case, wikilink all two or three items for each entry. this is just recording the existing practice on the page User:Ceyockey 01:17, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

Oh, I'm not particularly wedded to using that exact format (as the person who organized the page that way); if anybody can come up with a superior way to organize it, be my guest. My main reason for doing it the way I did was that the stations should be listed in alphabetical order by city of license, not by callsign. Bearcat 03:29, 19 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Move U.S. list to its own location

I'm suggesting creating a separate article for the list of U.S. college stations. This is justified just by its length - the U.S. list accounts for over half of the current article. I'm not sure whether length is also a reflective of the list's notability, though it strikes me that with over 400 stations and associated institutions, the "audience" for this information is significant. I'd appreciate hearing from others (even if it's more than a year in the future). Allreet (talk) 20:29, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Four years have passed and no response. I'll post the idea on WP:Help to determine how to proceed and will provide a link here as soon as I get a response. Allreet (talk) 17:31, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm seeking feedback on the idea of creating a new article, List of campus radio stations in the United States, in accordance with WP:Splitting. As mentioned above, I believe the length of the U.S. section — 411 stations, about twice that of all other countries combined — justifies a separate page.

I'm pinging registered editors who have made significant contributions to the page over the past five years or so based on Page Statistics. @Bearcat, Ceyockey, DavidMCEddy, DrChuck68, Mlaffs, Onel5969, Rodw, and Sdkb: If I've missed anyone who may have something to contribute to the discussion, please ask them to join in.

I'm not sure if we need to go through a formal splitting process (see the Procedure), because the guideline also suggests being "bold" by just forging ahead. Thanks. Allreet (talk) 07:40, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do it - it makes sense to me. ElKevbo (talk) 22:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ElKevbo, thanks for the encouragement. I will do exactly that. I do have one question, tied to the issue of "campus" vs. "college". For many reasons, I'd prefer the latter as in "List of college radio stations in the United States". My only qualm is that this page and its Canadian counterpart use the former. I realize consistency is important, but there I'd prefer being consistent with how the rest of the "world" (most readers) will look up the list. Your thoughts? Allreet (talk) 14:56, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Having slightly different names for related articles is totally okay in situations like this. ElKevbo (talk) 22:19, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support as it is very large for sure! User Page Talk Contributions Sheriff U3 03:15, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

actually student vs public radio

The entry starts off referencing "student" college radio stations. However, in the United States, many radio stations listed here are owned by a university but they are basically just NPR affiliates with little to no student leadership or involvement.

There should be some kind of distinction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.175.122.243 (talk) 05:53, 8 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. Some are operated entirely independent of the colleges and universities under license agreements with the local public television stations.

The challenge is finding a way to distinguish between "student-run" or a similar commonly-used phrase and "campus" or "college". In any case, the former and latter are distinctly different. Also, "campus" is a somewhat misleading term in that it's not exactly the same as "college-owned" or "college" by itself. The dif? "campus" is being used as a synonym for "college", when in reality, a fully-professionally licensed station has little or nothing to do with a college's campus. I know the semantics are muddled, but not in terms of general usage. Allreet (talk) 18:26, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In the US, "college radio" is a commonly understood term that addresses this confusion. It's used to refer to student-run radio in contrast to professionally run stations (often NPR or similar) that are based on college or university campuses, too. I don't know for sure but my sense is that "college radio" also encompasses a range of relationships between the station and the college or university, including those that are funded by the institution and directly overseen by the institution (e.g., faculty in the communications department/program) and those that have a less direct relationship with the institution (e.g., self-funded with no direct oversight by the institution). ElKevbo (talk) 22:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Split article to create separate list of U.S. station

I have edited and removed the section on U.S. stations to create a new article — List of college radio stations in the United States — following the guidelines under WP:Split. The reasons for doing so were discussed above under the topic Move U.S. list to its own location.

The new article is in fairly good shape. Before the split, I divided the U.S. list into two subsections: FCC-licensed stations and web-only stations. I've also cleaned up the listings for consistency but removed very few stations, primarily the four that were defunct. Of course, more stations can and should be added. To assist with that, I've included references in the Call Sign columns in the new article that cite reliable sources for identifying additional stations, as well as for verifying information on the stations included.

Thanks to everyone who contributed to the original section and to @ElKevbo and Sheriff U3: for supporting the split. Allreet (talk) 06:04, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]