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How come the numbers for world's busiest airports and UK airports don't line up?

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Simple UK jingoism again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.65.196.20 (talk) 15:57, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Cardiff Airport Nonsense

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Deleted again the Cardiff Airport comment on this page "Cardiff International Airport is expected to reach the top 10 of the U.K. busiest airports in coming years". For Cardiff Airport to reach the top 10 UK airports in size by, lets say 2018 (10 years from now), would require an increase in passenger numbers of over 30% per annum. That's every year, for 10 years in a row, assuming all other airports increase at just 5% per annum over the period. Sorry but this is completely impossible.

Whilst I accept other comments in the Future airport expansion section are unsourced, at least they are plausible. I will attempt to revamp the section with sourced information for all airports, but suggesting that Cardiff Airport will be in the top 10 UK airports in the next few years is simply cloud-cuckoo land and cannot seriously be included. SempreVolando (talk) 20:50, 16 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2008 figures

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To the changing IP, the figures I used have a source given UK Airport Statistics - January to October 2008 and UK Airport Provisional Statistics - November and December. The first has the Jan to Oct stats near the top of the page while the second has the Nov/Dec stats at the bottom of the page. I noticed that you are saying your figures are from the CAA but you give no link so they remain unsourced. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 16:41, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am using http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airport_data_prov/200812/December_2008_Provisional_Airport_Statistics.pdf However unlike your statistics no maths are required on my part, it's already been done by the Civil Aviation Authority. By all means fill in the blanks, but you cannot claim your statistics are more accurate than the actual official CAA figures. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.95.53 (talk) 21:35, 18 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I missed the last two lines in that file. I used the the Jan-Oct files and the two provisional files for Nov and Dec. You are right though I should used that set of figures and I changed what I entered to reflect those numbers. I also used the Nov file to to get the stats for the 5 missing airports. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 00:59, 19 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Now that the CAA have published final 2008 airport statistics, the first table in this article is redundant as it contains outdated and incorrect provisional statistics. This table included a great number of airports (39 in total), however the purpose of this article is to list statistics for the busiest UK airports (hence the article title). St Mary's Airport in the Isles of Scilly, for example, certainly does not count as one of the busiest in the UK. As a compromise I have altered the existing tables to include the 20 largest UK airports by passenger throughput, and removed this unnecessarily extensive table. I have also removed the IATA code column, and city column, which are not really relevant as users can easily click the airport wikilink names to see further unrelated information like this on each airport. SempreVolando (talk) 22:21, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
20 is an arbitrary number. You have excluded 5 airports with over 1 million passengers per annum. Furthermore what if someone wants information about airport number 26? The previous table was really useful for this type of thing. This is an encyclodpedia afterall. I vote no! So there currently exists no consensus for your change. The previous change has been there for months. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.134.161 (talk) 22:38, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've just totted up and you've excluded about 11 million passengers! If it were a single airport it would be the 5th biggest. So what you attempting to exclude affects alot of people. Where in this encyclopedia is this information now available after you have unilaterally removed it? Airports handling over 100,000 passengers may be arbitrary but it is no more arbitrary than the top 20! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.240.134.161 (talk) 22:49, 25 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have edited the page to include the "100,000+ passenger" table as well as the "20 largest airports" tables. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.152.92 (talk) 13:43, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The problem still remains though, the data in this table of the 39 largest airports is wrong; the 2008 passenger totals and percentage change values are all incorrect because they are based on outdated provisional statistics. The final numbers have been published by the CAA and this is what appears in the following tables, which provide year-on-year comparison. If we are to include all 39 of these airports the data must be right and ideally it should contain the appropriate fields as in the following tables (as the article lead suggests; including information on international, domestic and transit counterparts. The data also shows total aircraft movements and cargo volume handled at each airport.). The first table does not do this. SempreVolando (talk) 13:53, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Any number picked is arbitrary, top 20, 25, over 100,000 pax or over 1,000,000 pax. The article has the wrong title and I think it should be moved to "List of the busiest airports in the United Kingdom". The UK does a very good job of providing stats with the breakdown of passengers and aircraft movements so having a "busiest airports" would allow the article to show more information. Take a look at List of the busiest airports in Canada for an example. Rather than have a tower/FSS split you could have the top X by pax, top X by movements and top X by cargo. For historical purposes you could then show 2003 and 1998. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 14:48, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In the meantime I have updated the table of 39 largest airports so that the data is sourced from the final, full 2008 CAA statsitics (rather than provisional data). I have also added Plymouth Airport at number 40, as this also handled over 100,000 passengers in 2008 and so should appear in the table if that is the criteria being used. Perhaps we can then come to consensus on the appropriate layout / number of airports to include on this page, perhaps taking some of CambridgeBayWeather's suggestions into account? Thanks. SempreVolando (talk) 15:05, 26 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
On the other hand this article is not a work of art, it is an encyclopedia whose beauty is in providing useful information to those who read it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.176.48 (talk) 17:43, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I don't understand what you mean when you say "a work of art". Are you referring to the gallery section? If so I agree this is probably unnecessary, but the discussion needs to be on how many airports the 'busiest' in the UK should include so we can move forward with a common format both now and in future updates. SempreVolando (talk) 17:48, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I would suggest that either airports with 1,000,000 or the top 20. By the way should, Jersey, Guernsey and the Isle of Man be removed? According to the source they are not UK airports but Crown Dependencies and "...none forms part of the United Kingdom or of the European Union.", but they do use EG codes. Enter CambridgeBayWeather, waits for audience applause, not a sausage 21:43, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest that we update the earlier tables to include airports over 100,000 passenger per annum. There's three tables..... take one each? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.183.51 (talk) 15:00, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Durham Tees Valley cities served

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The city of Durham and town of Middlesborough have been listed as the places served. The airport is nearer Darlington then either of these places. The airport is a long way from Durham, so would anyone object if I changed the places served to Darlington and Middlesborough.

I'd object even less to the spelling Middlesbrough. :) Cheers DBaK (talk) 23:03, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2009 Stats

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I have noticed that the 2009 stats on this page are different from the official stats on the CAA website. Not by much, but could someone update? I don't want to mess around with the tables as no doubt I will mess it all up!!

[1] -> The end of year, 2009 annual reports.

Too much information?

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Can we trim the Location and Code (IATA/ICAO) columns out of the 2008-2009 40 airports Data table? Each airport name is wiki-linked and so anyone requiring this information can easily find it by visiting the appropriate Wiki page. I don't think it's for this article to list this sort of information. Any objections for me to remove these columns? Thanks. SempreVolando (talk) 12:25, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done - No objections so went ahead with this. Any further comments can be made here. Thanks. SempreVolando (talk) 21:04, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Geographic terminology

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The Isle of Man, Guernsey and Jersey are not in the United Kingdom. They are British Crown Possessions, but that's not the same thing. Thus it is inappropriate for their airports to feature in a list of "airports in the UK". The following two approaches of dealing with this suggest themselves: 

- Rewording the article.
- Removing them from the list.

Which would you prefer? Crink (talk) 22:33, 12 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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data wrong

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Heathrow a capacity of 20 million in 2021? Doesn't make sense. Lot's of recent data seem to be wrong... 2A02:6B67:D0A0:ED00:8443:2F72:FB7:35F2 (talk) 20:02, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Air traffic in the UK was substantially reduced in 2020-21 due to Covid. Pmbma (talk) 03:20, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See the data at https://www.caa.co.uk/data-and-analysis/uk-aviation-market/airports/uk-airport-data/ Pmbma (talk) 04:52, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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