Talk:List of abolitionist forerunners

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Various Quakers in England and America

Is this section accurate? I'm pretty sure many of these aren't Quaker Jonathan Williams (talk) 20:06, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It is factually incorrect, I'm not sure why it is important to have an incorrect list just because a published author (Clarkson) made a mistake. I am wondering if they should be marked in some way as incorrect since my prior attempt to correct was reverted. Mcsmom (talk) 15:57, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps a note should be added just clarifying that not all of these people were Quakers and that Clarkson incorrectly labeled them as such? 2602:304:CFFD:6541:A017:B1A5:3605:58D4 (talk) 19:48, 22 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Cardinal Ximenes?

I see nothing about abolition on his wikipedia page. Was Clarkson wrong or is Cisneros' article incomplete? LastDodo (talk) 17:59, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Organization and headings

What is the authority for the labeling and categorizing of the section lists in the discussion of Clarkson's "forerunners and coadjutors"?

Clarkson's "map" shows two main streams, tagged X and Y, of which one has three large tributaries. None is labeled on the map, and neither the article nor the map image explains Clarkson's alphabetical keys. Absent categorical labels from Clarkson's History of the Rise, Progress, and Accomplishment of the Abolition of the African Slave-Trade by the British Parliament, where the map appeared, it would be more faithful to the document for this article to describe each stream as a stream, right to left, top to bottom.

The discussion here already called attention to the inaccuracy of catch-all categorizations. Insofar as the labels aren't Clarkson's, they are interpolations and unnecessary. (Terms like "various" and "and/or" in the article section headings imply that Clarkson just threw names together.) The article already includes sections that are not from Clarkson, which could be built on to create a more comprehensive, systematic treatment of the antecedents to the British and American anti-slavery movements.

The "map" is an interesting early attempt to represent intellectual and political networks spatially and over time. Clarkson could have used simple lists or tables but chose not to. It would be appropriate to summarize how Clarkson used this representation in his larger book. The legacy of this map, both politically and as a visualization, would be worth addressing in this article, but that might get into original research

Heaven help the article reader with visual impairments who tries to figure out what the "map" actually maps. The article's first list already follows the main stream (though it leaves out "Anonymous" tributaries to the main British channel Clarkson positioned between Foster and Shenstone, Smith and Jeffrey, and Warburton and Beattie). The other sections are a jumble while also ignoring sources Clarkson conspicuously, repeatedly included: Quakers in Pennsylvania. Clarkson clearly did not represent progress as simply the work of great individual, but the lists do. 108.44.66.247 (talk) 15:00, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]