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city vs incorporated place

@Trorov: I was conflicted about the issue you bring up as well. Since the title of the article is "cities" rather than "incorporated places" I initially put the city names in the list. But in some cases, the city-county mergers took on the name of the county rather than the city (or both in some cases). For Echols and Webster counties, the city technically no longer exists, with the counties now being the incorporated place. For Tribune/Greeley County it's more complicated, because while the governments merged, they are still considered separate places by the census. Greeley County (balance) actually excludes the city of Tribune.

The other change you made was to the population of Louisville/Jefferson County (balance). The number you use does not match the source. --Lasunncty (talk) 08:20, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Lasunncty: The Census is inconsistent in how it names city-county mergers (see the Consolidated Cities listed at the Census’ Boundary and Annexation Survey (BAS) [1]) – it’s simplest to just use the city name, and this is consistent with the List of United States cities by population.

In the case of the Consolidated Cities of Louisville and Tribune, the Census rather confusingly provides information separately for "Louisville city" and "Louisville/Jefferson County metro government (balance)", and "Tribune city" and "Greeley County unified government (balance)". (Thus, as you wrote, Greeley County (balance) excludes the city of Tribune; similarly, Louisville/Jefferson County metro government (balance) excludes the city of Louisville.) In order to get the respective populations and areas for the Consolidated City, one must add the "city" and "balance" figures. Thus the population of Louisville is 633,045 – as reported on the List of United States cities by population – which is the "balance" population you provided *plus* the "Louisville city" population. --Trorov (talk) 22:47, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Echols and Webster Counties are listed under incorporated places. I assume they're not under consolidated cities because the city charters no longer exist.

Ah, I did not catch that Louisville had the same situation as Tribune. If you think those two should have the city added to the balance, I am ok with that. --Lasunncty (talk) 23:36, 8 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I double-checked, and sure enough Echols and Webster counties are listed under Incorporated Places. I still maintain that the "city" names of Statenville and Preston should be listed here, to be consistent with how other consolidated cities are referred to (i.e., "Louisville", not Jefferson County; "Nashville", not Davidson County; "Indianapolis", not Marion County), etc. Statenville and Preston are still place names with their own Wikipedia articles; I’m sure locals continue refer to them as such (i.e., they aren’t saying "I live in Webster" instead of "I live in Preston"); and the US Postal Service uses them exclusively as place names (STATENVILLE GA 31648 and PRESTON GA 31824 are legitimate postal addresses, while ECHOLS GA and WEBSTER GA are not). --Trorov (talk) 00:32, 9 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Add BOSTON, Massachusetts to: United States cities by area

Land Area (sq mi) 89.63 mi² / Land Area (km²) 232.1 km² / Water Area 41.27 sq mi (106.90 km2) / Total Area (sq mi) 89.63 mi² / Total Area (km²) 232.1 km² / Population 689,326 (2020) / 96.253.33.199 (talk) 18:24, 13 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AND ADD SAN FRANSISCO 96.253.33.199 (talk) 03:46, 14 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

disruptive editing

There have been several edits by IP users replacing San Francisco with Boston in the lede since at least August 2022. I requested edit protection but was declined. Is there anything else we can do? --Lasunncty (talk) 22:08, 20 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

#15 Statenville

Statenville, Georgia should not be on the list. The town was disincorporated in 2008 and, as such, has no land or water area of it's own. It is now an unincorporated section of Echols County. At one time it was a Census Designated Place but that definition has also been dropped by the U.S. Census Bureau. Contrary to what note "B" indicates, Statenville did not merge with Echols County; rather it was dissolved. 71.176.33.33 (talk) 23:12, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tribune KS is not 778 square miles

Decimal point error here? 2601:602:8C00:A190:C38A:F581:8A40:97C4 (talk) 05:54, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

According to the Tribune, Kansas, article: "Since January 1, 2009, the City of Tribune and Greeley County have operated as a unified government." So the figure includes all the unincorporated areas of the county. Indyguy (talk) 16:05, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I did see that but it's a little confusing because it seems like only the governments merged and the physical boundaries didn't? 2601:602:8C00:A190:BEA1:9326:44CA:D77B (talk) 19:32, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted an edit on this topic but after further digging I have to apologize, I actually think IP 2601 is correct here. 2024 Census Bureau gazetteer files show Tribune city's area as still being <1 sq mi. I think we need a better source before we confidently list Tribune as above Jacksonville. SunTunnels (talk) 21:46, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]