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I think all sections should be listed in a consistent order by surname within the sections, otherwise, it's difficult to find people. For example, the Nobel table in this article is currently ordered by the THIRD column, while the MacArthur Fellows table is ordered by the FOURTH column, which is quite bizarre if you think about it. How many tables can you cite that do that? Generally tables are ordered by the first column, then the second column, and so on. Alex68677 02:34, 4 October 2006 (UTC

HISTORIANS -- Hmmm . . . Can't say I've heard of Seth Koven. Isn't the point to list quite eminent people, not just Swarthmore grads who are historians? Given a choice of listing Thomas Lacquer (not on list) or Seth Koven, I'd say it is clear: Thomas Lacquer should be on the list. (And I am not Thomas Lacquer, and I am a historian with a Swarthmore BA. . . :) Enigma. . . 116.118.24.43 09:56, 25 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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I have no affiliation with Swarthmore. Graham87 asserted a rule I'd never seen over many years of editing, where persons who were otherwise notable (indicated by the fact of Wikipedia articles about them) were nevertheless not allowed on the Swarthmore College people list of noteworthy people, because articles about them were not present in five languages (!)

I thought this an absurd rule. With all due respect to the Czech Republic, I don't care if a dedicated editor from that country has bothered to translate and post a copy of an English language article to his nation's Wikipedia site. Nor have I seen this arbitrary rule show up elsewhere.

I reverted; Graham87 reversed this, and noted it had been discussed on "the talk page". There was nothing on this page at the time, but I did see his post on this on the archive of the Swarthmore College talk page itself, to which no further discussion was appended, and which I will link here: Talk:Swarthmore_College/Archive_1#Restrictions_on_the_list_of_alumni. He appears to be a regular and diligent editor, similarly without ties to Swarthmore. I assume good faith. He's just wrong.

Sure, there is bloat on various lists of noteworthy individuals. But this specious 'language rule' is not a good way to cull the field. Few articles on any Wikipedia site would survive such a test. The best and most common practice is to argue notability in the creation or maintenance of articles about specific persons, and once these are settled, if editors are so moved, to place that linked name (i.e: with its Wikipedia brackets), on the list of notables. I am reverting once again, on that basis. If editors do not agree that a person is notable, they should offer an AfD prompt about that person's article. If editors do not think an otherwise notable person should be included in a school's list of notable alumni, that's fine, and they can argue it out there. But this ought to have nothing to do with duplicate listings on other language sites. Jax MN (talk) 18:32, 12 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is the talk page for List of Swarthmore College people, not Swarthmore College. Your message is completely irrelevant here. Graham87 02:57, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've brought this topic up at the main talk page for the college. Graham87 07:17, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Rufus Jones

General: I am not adept at at adding links and formatting. Would anyone care to add https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Rufus_Jones_%28writer%29

to the list of Nobel Laureates? MMvB1952 (talk) 12:17, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved your message to the right place. Rufus Jones did not win a Nobel Prize; he only accepted one on behalf of an organisation. Also, his article doesn't say he had anything to do wit Swarthmore College; it just says he gave two Swarthmore Lectures. Graham87 (talk) 15:07, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note too, that the name for the Swarthmore Lecture series has nothing to do with Swarthmore College. Rather, the name of that venerable series of lectures traces to the name of a home owned by Margaret Fell, an early 17C Quaker. Jax MN (talk) 18:02, 4 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]