Talk:List of Survivor (American TV series) episodes (seasons 21–40)

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Transclusion limit exceeded

This article has landed in Category:Pages where template include size is exceeded. I suggest a solution similar to what I implemented for List of The Simpsons episodes. 27 seasons, 596 episodes there; 32 seasons, 473 episodes here. – wbm1058 (talk) 23:27, 7 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@wbm1058I agree with the solution that you implemented for List of The Simpsons episodes. For List of Survivor (U.S. TV series) episodes I suggest Seasons 21-32 be on the main List of Episodes article and Seasons 1-20 be split off of the main List of article. 74thClarkBarHG (talk) 20:25, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Dear User:Wbm1058. It appears that User:74thClarkBarHG would have no objections if you were doing the split. To be totally honest, I wouldn't object either (remark: I have split List of Pokémon episodes today). Best regards. Pldx1 (talk) 15:48, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

OK, this has been on my back burner, and I've been meaning to get to it. wbm1058 (talk) 15:53, 26 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I split off the first eight seasons, and cleared up some reference conflicts that were causing errors. The page is back within technical limits for transclusion. This exposes that we don't have references for the first 16 seasons' viewer ratings. I'll wait a bit to see if there are any comments about or problems with my split, before splitting any more seasons. – wbm1058 (talk) 15:38, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Just split seasons 9 and 10, post-expand include sizes:

List of Survivor (U.S. TV series) episodes- 1,928,014 / 2,097,152 bytes

List of Survivor (U.S. TV series) episodes* – 523,560 / 2,097,152 bytes

– wbm1058 (talk) 14:49, 1 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:List of Survivor (U.S. TV series) episodes* which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. wbm1058 (talk) 01:16, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

A Second Split

Once season 41 is revealed, I feel like there should be a third article for seasons 41 onward and this article should be for seasons 21-40.

Requested move 12 July 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to List of Survivor (American TV series) episodes (season 21–present). See also Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Television#Episode_list_titles and my closing comments. No such user (talk) 08:38, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

List of Survivor (American TV series) episodes → List of Survivor (American TV series) episodes (seasons 21–present) – The current name falsely implies that all episodes of Survivor are here when it is only season 21 onward. Blubabluba9990 (talk) (contribs) 18:11, 12 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support. The current title is indeed misleading as it doesn't have a list of all episodes. A better system is one used by Lists of Doctor Who episodes. Gonnym (talk) 09:20, 13 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nominator. As might have been the case of Lists of Big Brother (American TV series) episodes splitting into two parts as the target link is a disam page. The list will be a disam page. ApprenticeWiki work 12:55, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Obviously. And redirect List of Survivor (American TV series) episodes to Survivor (American TV series)#Series overview. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:17, 14 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose current proposal, but support move to List of Survivor (American TV series) episodes (season 21–present) – the word "seasons" should not be plural in this context (it is not the same situation as "(seasons 1–20)"). --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:46, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking that too, but that is also used on List of Pokémon episodes (seasons 14–current) which I suggested to be renamed to List of Pokémon episodes (seasons 14–present). It is too late now though. Blubabluba9990 (talk) (contribs) 16:30, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose This proposal flies in the face of established convention - See for example List of The Simpsons episodes. Where it has been necessary to split episode lists that break the post expand include size, sub-pages are created but the master list is not renames. This avoids any necessity to move episode lists every time a sub-page is created. IIRC, the original move discussion that resulted in this convention is the one at Talk:List of Casualty episodes (series 1–20) along with other explanations on that page. IIRC, the original move discussion that resulted in this convention is the one at Talk:List of Casualty episodes (series 1–20) along with other explanations on that page. --AussieLegend (✉) 18:03, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support Brought here from the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television § Episode list titles. I also agree with the editors at WT:TV and the RM nominator(s). If the "season A-B" article is disambiguated, then so should related articles, such as the "season C-present" article. An article's title should be the clearest indicator that reflects the content of the article: "List of X episodes" indicates that all episodes are listed on the article, but "List of X episodes (season C-present)" indicates that only a set number of episodes are listed on the article and that the rest are at a related article. I'll be voting to support the other related RM's, with the same reasoning I've listed here. -- /Alex/₂₁ 01:59, 18 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note - Since the result of this RM may contradict the current, ell established naming process, this RM should be halted until the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television#Episode list titles concludes with an appropriate outcome. --AussieLegend (✉) 10:24, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. See Talk:List of Casualty episodes#Requested move 12 July 2021. Andrewa (talk) 17:35, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.