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Merging

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None of the main characters, with the possible exception of Alice/Mokuren and Rin/Shion (and those are dubious as well) can pass the notability requirements, not even of the proposed WP:FICT, and they should not have been split out. I'm going to mark them for merging back -- and would do the work tonight but I've got Life Stuff. —Quasirandom (talk) 22:55, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Info about characterizations

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The following text is copied here from Please Save My Earth (OVA). It has much useful (and sourced) information about the characters, especially in the manga, but it is so riddled with original research -- specifically, every comparison between forms, and especially all the ones that are judgmental about any difference -- that it cannot be used in its present form. However, there's enough useful bits I'm putting it here so the nuggets can be teased out and added to the individual character sections. —Quasirandom (talk) 02:18, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Alice is shown in the anime as being very weak-willed and demure without giving her the needed screen-time from later in the manga where it is explained that she is simply being a lot more careful than the others of allowing her past life to take over her current one. After she finally allows Mokuren's memories to return to her, she several times makes quite a stand against Shion while he is dominating Rin[1].[2][3]"
"Shion, as well, is largely misrepresented by the anime, due to its cherry-picking of plot and scenes from Shion's past. The anime portrays Shion as a somewhat quiet and antisocial love interest for Mokuren with a bad childhood. In their last days alone together on the moon base, Shion is depicted in the anime as being incredibly devoted to her. The manga, however, sheds a completely different light on Shion's character by expanding his backstory to include his time at college with Gyokuran and Shukaido, as well as his forcible assignment to the ZKK-101 mission.[4][5] Additionally, the manga includes a plethora of extra scenes from the moon base from the time the scientists arrive, their normal daily activities and problems, as well as when the Homeworld is destroyed and the virus starts spreading. All of these additional scenes paint a completely different picture of Shion – namely that he is a conceited, rude and cruel sociopath who will stop at nothing to destroy Gyokuran's unwavering spirit[6][7].[8][9] It is not clear until the very end of the manga whether or not Shion loved Mokuren in their last days on the moon.[10] This seemingly trivial unknown ends up becoming a severely aggravating factor in the attempts of the reincarnations to stop Rin/Shion at the end of the manga, making the anime's careless mix of "happy" scenes of the two together very misleading."
"The largest difference in characterization in the anime is Mokuren's character. In the anime, Mokuren is depicted as an angelic, kind, and benevolent individual who is loved by all and loves everyone in return. In the reality of the manga, Mokuren is a selfish, disagreeable, irreverent, and unhappy person who despises her Kiches power and to some degree the Sarjalim faith that destroyed her childhood[11].[12][13] Men seem to fall in love with her at the drop of a hat, the women in her life despise her for this, which makes her incredibly bitter.[14][15] Despite this less-than-angelic view of Mokuren, she is not portrayed as a bad person in the manga like Shion is, since when it came down to her test of moral integrity, Mokuren couldn't go through with it.[16] All of the scenes of Alice's multi-book flashback to Mokuren's rather broken childhood are left out of the anime, except in the image video Mikadzuki no Shindai."
"Further, the relationship between Shion and Mokuren in the anime is shown to be nothing more or less than loving. In reality, this is only true toward the end of their time on the moon base together, and only superficially, as depicted in the manga.[17] The first time Shion beheld Mokuren in the manga he was in awe at the unfairness of how someone as perfect and unmarred as Mokruen could be allowed to exist.[18] From this point on, Shion goes out of his way to mistreat Mokuren at any opportunity, usually either ignoring her when she is trying to pay attention to him, yelling at her quite rudely about trivial things, and tormenting her by playing pranks on her designed to make her cry[6].[8][7] Compounding this, Gyokuran appears to be completely in love with Mokuren, and Mokuren seems to get along well with Gyokuran, making Shion all the more angry and determined to ruin both of them. Finally, Shion makes his move, causing Gyokuran to become insanely furious, and Mokuren to become incredibly depressed, although she does so behind a kind smile.[9][19] The scenes of Shion and Mokuren together alone on the moon base are at a time when neither of them believes the other loves them, but the anime makes it seem like there was never any question about their mutual love. This uncertainty between the two is used to severely complicate the second half of the manga, all the way to the denouement."
"Lastly, the torment that Issei goes through due to Enju's love for Gyokuran, and Issei's current state of being the same gender as Enju's former love interest, Jinpachi, is only touched upon in the anime. Later, when the group meets up with Sakura and Daisuke, the manga depicts quite a few scenes between Issei and Sakura (Shusuran was Enju's best friend), usually Sakura advising Issei on what to do about Jinpachi, somewhat reprising her role as Enju's best friend. As more and more of these scenes between Issei and Sakura are shown, as well as multiple flashbacks to the moon base on through Sakura/Shusuran's eyes, it becomes quite clear that Shusuran was in love with Enju to whatever degree is allowed by the culture that the scientists come from (although Enju never seemed to notice).[20] And now that Enju has been reincarnated as a male, Sakura finds herself more and more drawn to him, despite all of her flippant attitude and gruffness towards Issei's problems.[21] The anime left out nearly all of this romantic side plot."

References

  1. ^ Hiwatari, Saki (2005). Please Save My Earth. Volume 11. Viz Media. pp. 68–72. ISBN 1591168465.
  2. ^ Hiwatari, Saki (2007). Please Save My Earth. Volume 21. Viz Media. pp. 8–14. ISBN 1421508370.
  3. ^ Hiwatari, Saki (2007). Please Save My Earth. Volume 21. Viz Media. pp. 90–93. ISBN 1421508370.
  4. ^ Hiwatari, Saki (2004). Please Save My Earth. Volume 8. Viz Media. pp. 146–149. ISBN 1591162718.
  5. ^ Hiwatari, Saki (2005). Please Save My Earth. Volume 9. Viz Media. pp. 42–52. ISBN 1591162726.
  6. ^ a b Hiwatari, Saki (2006). Please Save My Earth. Volume 16. Viz Media. pp. 100–108. ISBN 1421505495.
  7. ^ a b Hiwatari, Saki (2006). Please Save My Earth. Volume 16. Viz Media. pp. 169–181. ISBN 1421505495.
  8. ^ a b Hiwatari, Saki (2005). Please Save My Earth. Volume 9. Viz Media. pp. 154–175. ISBN 1591162726.
  9. ^ a b Hiwatari, Saki (2005). Please Save My Earth. Volume 10. Viz Media. pp. 120–159. ISBN 1591162734.
  10. ^ Hiwatari, Saki (2007). Please Save My Earth. Volume 20. Viz Media. pp. 124–142. ISBN 1421505533.
  11. ^ Hiwatari, Saki (2006). Please Save My Earth. Volume 15. Viz Media. pp. 55–59. ISBN 1421503263.
  12. ^ Hiwatari, Saki (2006). Please Save My Earth. Volume 15. Viz Media. pp. 97–103. ISBN 1421503263.
  13. ^ Cite error: The named reference moku_sevoru was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  14. ^ Hiwatari, Saki (2006). Please Save My Earth. Volume 16. Viz Media. pp. 14–21. ISBN 1421505495.
  15. ^ Hiwatari, Saki (2006). Please Save My Earth. Volume 16. Viz Media. p. 51. ISBN 1421505495.
  16. ^ Hiwatari, Saki (2006). Please Save My Earth. Volume 19. Viz Media. pp. 133–143. ISBN 1421505525.
  17. ^ Hiwatari, Saki (2006). Please Save My Earth. Volume 19. Viz Media. pp. 45–57. ISBN 1421505525.
  18. ^ Hiwatari, Saki (2005). Please Save My Earth. Volume 9. Viz Media. pp. 93–97. ISBN 1591162726.
  19. ^ Hiwatari, Saki (2006). Please Save My Earth. Volume 19. Viz Media. pp. 15–43. ISBN 1421505525.
  20. ^ Hiwatari, Saki (2006). Please Save My Earth. Volume 17. Viz Media. pp. 33–69. ISBN 1421505509.
  21. ^ Hiwatari, Saki (2005). Please Save My Earth. Volume 11. Viz Media. pp. 129–147. ISBN 1591169879.
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