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I just want to say that there are may famous jatt in every field of life from pakistan. You have list of pakistani politician jatts. How can you ignore Dehdo Ranjha, icon of sout asian folk culture.


Use of Caste in biographies and lists- does it require the individual's self-declaration?

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Hi, request those who are watching this page to contribute to the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Caste_identification on whether mentioning a person's caste (Jati) requires that person to explicitly say that he belongs to XX caste (like in the case of religion and sexuality), or whether caste identity is objective and knowable enough (like ethnic background) to be ascertained without producing proof that the person explicitly identified with a particular caste. For example, can we identify Mulayam_Singh_Yadav as a Yadav based on newspaper articles etc., or whether we need proof that Mulayam Singh Yadav has explicitly accepted 'Yadav' as his caste (by saying, for example, something like "I am a Yadav".) Sreejiraj (talk) 19:49, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Deletion

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Regardless of citations and annotations, this is definitely an open-ended list, and should be deleted per the proposals at User:Sidatio/Conversations/On list guidelines. It also appears to be a "directory" and "indiscriminate collection of information", and "is practically the same as List of Nairs" per the arguments for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Rajputs Kappa 07:46, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No it is not. This article was kept over a year ago over a vote.

Also there are :

This article cannot be deleted because there are:

--Peter johnson4 12:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

history

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hello

i want to know the history of the sub caste of jat family known as ( jat jahmat ). pls give me any detail you can provide me or any person who belong to the same family contact me my e mail address is zahidafzalz@yahoo.com.

i will appricate your help

thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.48.107.14 (talk) 19:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Adjusted article

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Hi,

Today I added some references and adjusted the article in a more informative way,,and moreover adjusted names to their respective catagories. If you have any concern with this edit then firstly plz. discuss it here ..I will add more references soon..

-- Last Emperor (talk) 06:21, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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i wanna add some useful information in dis page Anandkunwer (talk) 12:15, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 11 October 2015

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Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).

Genxarmy (talk) 05:12, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Add The name of Wrestler and Olympic medalist Sushil Kumar in the list of people belonging to Jat Clan - List Of Jats (https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/List_of_Jats)

Source of verification for this addition is - http://www.jatland.com/home/Sushil_Solanki

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 11:32, 11 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Assessment comment

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Lord Krishna a Jatt? Where did you get that from? Lord Krishna was from the Yadu clan also known as a Yaduvanshi, now commonly known as Ahirs/Yadavs. I know jatts are similar to Yadavs but Jatts didn't weren't in existence back then in Bharat vansh.

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Ch. Mani Ram Bagri

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This edit added one source (the parliamentary bio) that doesn't mention "Jat"; another (jatland.com) that is an open wiki; a third (Indian Mirror) that does not seem to mention the man; and a fourth (Dainik) that is not in English and the veracity of which I doubt given the apparent cluelessness of the contributor. So I reverted it. - Sitush (talk) 15:47, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Jat wrestler

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Udey chand wrestler- first Arjun awardy in wrestling Ybheron (talk) 17:56, 24 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 23 November 2017

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 Not done. You didn't include what changes you want made, why you want to make them, or what sources you want to use. CityOfSilver 16:24, 23 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Not a complete list

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There so many other notable people who are not listed in her like Ashish nehra cricketer, saina nehwal lawn tennis and many more. Request you to please add proper list. Thank you Sahil935 (talk) 10:55, 21 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2019

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Some new names are there that can be added. Please allow me to add the new information. Thanks. Naman Sahrawat (talk) 18:09, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It would require self identification by the subject in a reliable source. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:14, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You can suggest changes here on this talk page (citing reliable sources) – Þjarkur (talk) 23:32, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request for addition of names of Marshal of the Indian Air Force Arjan Singh, and Mallika Sherawat

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Marshal of the Indian Air Force Arjan Singh was a Sikh Jat. Quoting from this article in The Tribune:

“I am no longer a Jat as you said in the book, I have no land now,” said Arjan Singh, recalling a comment made in the book, written two years ago, that the Jat in him was kept alive by the farm. For this Aulakh Jat, giving up his land is a great gesture, and by setting up a trust for the welfare of others, Arjan Singh has set a shining example in a nation where such things have become rare.

Actress Mallika Sherawat is also a Jat.

Quoting her from this article in Rediff:

Mallika chips in, "We Jats, Dharamji and I, will set the screens on fire!"

So, please add their names under Military and Cinema sections respectively.

These can totally be added. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:17, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Request for addition of name of Mahie Gill under "Cinema and television" sub-heading

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Actress Mahie Gill was born in a Jat-Sikh family as told by her in this article in Times of India:

“ Although I belong to a Jat-Sikh family, who are known to be very conservative, I didn’t have to face any restrictions, whether it was regarding my career or personal choices."

So, please add her name under Cinema sub-heading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.98.173.254 (talk) 16:35, 20 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 3 June 2022

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Amarinder Singh Former Chief minister of Punjab Vsheoran (talk) 10:46, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Additionally, they must be notable enough for a Wikipedia article. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:51, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Amarinder_Singh Vsheoran (talk) 11:52, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Chief_Minister_of_Punjab_(India) Vsheoran (talk) 11:53, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Vsheoran: Amarinder Singh is already listed. See List of Jat people#Politics. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:06, 3 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not a complete list

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Kartar Singh Sarabha Bhupinder Singh Hooda Feroz Khan Noon Muhammad Rafiq Tarar Rudra4Real (talk) 07:47, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have references of all Rudra4Real (talk) 07:48, 4 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Original researches?

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@Rudra4Real: The sources accompanying the entries of Rakesh Singh,[1] Chhelu Ram,[2] Sis Pal Singh,[3] and Munna Lal Mundel,[4] do not explicitly say that they were Jats, only mention that they were soldiers in the Jat Regiment. Though, it is highly possible, but sourcing like these ventures into original research territory, not to mention the Jat Regiment had people from other backgrounds. In my opinion, we should not keep these entries unless ecplicit sources are found. Courtesy pin @Aviral18:. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:20, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Fylindfotberserk Yes they may lead to conflict because Anyone can join Jat regiment. There is not specific that only Jats can join. So we Can remove it or find reliable sources which mention their caste clearly. Rudra4Real (talk) 14:25, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Jat regiment is full single caste regiment.
Munna lal mundel is from 9 Jat regiment and Munna lal Mundel from 2nd Jat battalion as written in sources and these are full single one caste regiment and only recruits from Jat Aviral18 (talk) 16:23, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
sorry for mistake
Munna lal Mundel from 9th jat regiment
Naik Shishpal from 2nd Jat battalion
both are single caste jat based regiment Aviral18 (talk) 16:25, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Aviral18: See this govt source, according to it

Class Composition of the RegtThe Jats as a community started joining the British Indian Army only after mid 1857 when they were first recruited around Delhi to quell the Gurjar rebellion. By 1890’s there were sizeable Jats to form them into Coy gps. By 1920’s there were about four to six Inf Bns (then also called Inf Regts) which had sizeable JAT Troops. During the time of Independence, the JAT Regt had 50% Hindu Jats and 25% Punjabi and 25% Hindustani Muslims. After the departure of Muslim troops to Pakistan, the Regt had pure Hindu Jats troops. As the recruitment policy of the Army changed to accommodate a factor / ratio called the RECRUITABLE MALE POPULATION to provide central govt jobs on a more equitable basis across the country the number of pure Hindu Jats reduced. The Regt today has 89% troops from the Hindu Jats community and the balance are from other castes of North India.

As you can see there were/are sizable non-Jat recruitment in the regiments during British period and present. Please find sources where the persons are declared belonging to Jat caste explicitly. These should be removed for contravening WP:NOR. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:51, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/haryanatribune/2-lt-rakesh-singh-youngest-recipient-of-ashoka-chakra-616187
  2. ^ https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/haryanatribune/chhelu-ram-a-folktale-hero-of-ww-ii-602364
  3. ^ https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/archive/haryanatribune/naik-shishpal-first-mvc-awardee-from-haryana-656779
  4. ^ https://www.spectroom.com/1024470111-munna-lal-mundel

July 2022

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There are hundreds of famous Jats missing just because they don’t have wiki page and they have not claimed they are Jats Even Jat olympic medal winners are not there — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4053:2C9F:6C24:E57D:560:2F19:9701 (talk) 18:30, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is how it works in Wikipedia. Requires articles per notability polciy, and for living person, self-identification is required in an interview (reliable news portal or video) or declaration in official tweet, Facebook post, website, etc - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:49, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Praveen kumar in an video which is on youtube said that he is jat but wikipedia not allowing Youtube video as reference Can any solve this problem? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.167.182.66 (talk) 15:39, 13 July 2022 (UTC) Its so painful to see When your community has infinite number of heroes but they cannot be listed just because any Big source has not claimed they are jats — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4053:2E83:8E50:E59E:70DF:4008:18CF (talk) 05:43, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Every community has "infinite number of heroes". But not everybody is notable per Wikipedia guidelines (WP:GNG) apart from self-identification in sources for living ones. That's why the restrictions come. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:53, 14 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please add Sada kaur a formidable sikh leader and served as chief of kanhaiya misl https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/When_Sparrows_Became_Hawks/-7HJ5idB8_QC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Sada+Kaur+Jat&pg=PA61&printsec=frontcover — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4053:20E:9EFC:CC39:7832:B0E6:1DDC (talk) 04:13, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Rudra4real
Plz add Sada kaur
And Jind kaur both are Jat leaders
Required references are available too — Preceding unsigned comment added by AviJ8 (talk • contribs) 06:39, 16 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Is this tweet of Ved Prakash malik enough to prove him Jat?
Plz tell
@Fylindfotberserk — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.224.245.125 (talk) 04:21, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Please link the tweet's URL here in this discussion. Thanks - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:01, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
https://twitter.com/vedmalik1/status/1514648305438892053?s=21&t=E8RMtyW_JaVxvbrhFI7EIg HistoryviaAT (talk) 11:52, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@HistoryviaAT: A little problematic, that is original research, since he replied to the handle @voice_kshatriya (which would include other communities) as well. Had he replied to @JAT_SAMAAJ only, then it would have been clearer. "Proud to be part of warrior community", can mean any of the warrior or historically warrior communities as well as soldiers in the armed forces. If you find more explicit self-identification, then it would be better. I'd like to consult @NitinMlk: about this. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:22, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Fylindfotberserk, the archived link shows that Malik responded to the following tweet of @voice_kshatriya: @Vedmalik1 sir congratulations on being declared a Jat. - NitinMlk (talk) 19:09, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@NitinMlk: It will pass then, thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:12, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@NitinMlk: Added. On a side note I'd like to mention that the person rightmost in the image in the tweet by जाट समाज @JAT_SAMAAJ was not a Jat, but a Zamindar Bengali Brahmin General Jayanto Nath Chaudhuri. These verified handles need to fact check before posting/ - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:54, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do Persons who have Jat in their names also need self identification? Example-Bhawna Jat, an Indian athelete — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoryviaAT (talk • contribs) 09:02, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@HistoryviaAT: Yes. Sushant Singh Rajput was not added in the List of Rajputs until sources were found that he was indeed a Rajput by caste. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:14, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Arrangements - We should have some specific format in this regard. Typically per MOS:LISTORG, the entries are arranged alphabetically by LAST NAME. Though we can do it by birth year of the subjects. Currently, we are not following any of these. Suggestions @NitinMlk, Rudra4Real, HistoryviaAT, Ravensfire, and Gotitbro: ? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:23, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Fylindfotberserk, I am not familiar with this, but MOS:LISTORG mentions that the "most basic form of organization is alphabetical". It doesn't seem to mention any preference for the first/last name. I guess alphabetical order by the first name seems fine for this page because the general readers tend to look for a particular name, which will be very easy if the names are listed in alphabetical order. Listing by last names will make it complicated for them, as WP articles are based on WP:Common names which may not be known to them. In fact, many South Asian WP biographies don't even mention full names of the subjects, while the titles of others contain made-up/unsourced surnames. The ordering based on date/year of birth may also be complicated, as the date/year of birth of many subjects may not be known.
On a different note, although I am on a WP:WIKIBREAK, I tried to fix this list last Sunday and will probably try to fix it this Sunday as well. - NitinMlk (talk) 21:26, 29 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@NitinMlk: True, in many biographies, especially southern India related, the last name in question is not their surnames, thus why the subject is referred to by their given name throughout the article, besides in India, arrangements are typically done by first name officially (schools, colleges, and other places). - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:56, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Jagdeep Dhankar in a programme of Rajasthan Jat Mahasabha said that he is a small soldier of this large community(referring to Jat)

video link here-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISNO7wnzqG0 is it enough to add him to the list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoryviaAT (talk • contribs) 11:30, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, that would pass. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:01, 30 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Satypal Malik in his speech at International Jat parliament said “Our History” when talking about Jat bistory Link here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZcKXLfFeoI Is it enough to add him in the list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoryviaAT (talk • contribs) 07:24, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@HistoryviaAT: Timestamp? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:38, 31 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please add Raja Man Singh Bharatpur Reference here-https://hindi.news18.com/news/uttar-pradesh/daughter-deepa-kaur-fought-for-35-years-for-father-jaat-leader-raja-mansingh-of-bharatpur-encounter-dlpg-3182880.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoryviaAT (talk • contribs) 16:25, 15 August 2022 (UTC) Add Jind Kaur She fought the British -https://scroll.in/article/853573/the-indomitable-queen-as-the-sikh-empire-crumbled-only-one-woman-scared-the-british She was a Jat-https://books.google.com/books?id=AUhOAQAAMAAJ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4053:48E:F4CA:AC4E:48B1:DF4C:DEB2 (talk) 16:52, 15 August 2022 (UTC) Please add these entries if they fulfil requirements — Preceding unsigned comment added by HistoryviaAT (talk • contribs) 12:49, 16 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BLP violations

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The following three entries seem WP:BLP violations:

So I will remove them till we crosscheck their sources. - NitinMlk (talk) 22:51, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@NitinMlk You should re add Chaudhry Parvez Elahi. Doesn't seem like a WP:BLP violation when he has got a whole Wikipedia article.[4]. He is nephew of Chaudhry Zahoor Elahi, who is already in the list, and a cousin of Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain, former premier of Paistan.[5][6][7] Noman Warraich (talk) 22:17, 23 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Noman Warraich, his name can only be added if he self-identifies as Jat – see WP:CASTEID. You need to provide a source, e.g. book, news article, YouTube video, social media post, etc. in which he mentions that he is a Jat. Chaudhry Zahoor Elahi is already listed because WP:BLP doesn't apply to him. - NitinMlk (talk) 17:18, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Capt Amarinder Singh is Jat mahasabha chief". Hindustan Times. PTI. 12 May 2013. Retrieved 16 May 2019.
  2. ^ Top guns got Rs 54bn loans written off
  3. ^ Rohtaki, Heena (14 December 2021). "'Harnaaz means everyone's pride, she proved that today'". The Indian Express. Retrieved 11 July 2022.
  4. ^ https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Parvez_Elahi
  5. ^ https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Shujaat_Hussain
  6. ^ https://www.dawn.com/news/1024465/chaudhry-pervaiz-elahi-3#:~:text=His%20cousin%2C%20Chaudhry%20Shujaat%20Hussain%2C%20and%20his%20son%2C%20Moonis%20Elahi%20are%20part%20of%20a%20family%20trio%20which%20leads%20PML%2DQ.
  7. ^ https://www.dawn.com/news/379658#:~:text=The%20late%20Chaudhry%20Manzoor%20was%20a%20progressive%20industrialist.%20He%20always%20stood%20behind%20his%20politician%20brother%20Chaudhry%20Zahoor%20Elahi.%20But%20he%20never%20interfered%20in%20his%20politics.%20They%20never%20disagreed%20with%20each%20other.

Undiscussed page move

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The page's title has remained as List of Jats for over a decade before it was moved without any discussion to the present title. So I will revert the undiscussed & unhelpful move, as Jats is the WP:COMMON NAME. I am not pinging the editor who moved it, as they have already left the project after being topic banned for some stuff. - NitinMlk (talk) 22:03, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am not a WP:PAGEMOVER. So I won't be able to move it. - NitinMlk (talk) 22:12, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@NitinMlk: I can't, I'm not a pagemover either. Though I agree to your proposal. Can you start a WP:RM? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:47, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Page needs WP:ECP

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RegentsPark, the semi-protection has failed to stop the disruption on this page. The current level of protection is a cakewalk for the type of disruptive WP:SPAs and sock puppets who visit it. So it needs to be extended-confirmed protected indefinitely, just like multiple other similar lists. - NitinMlk (talk) 23:59, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Too less people are shown in the famous people list.

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Many singers and many sports and army personalities are not available there in the list of famous Jat people. Why is that.? Some of the rulers are also not their like King Porus and Hari Singh NALWA. Wiki should look into it and do the favourable changes. Vikaspeeploda (talk) 04:38, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 March 2023

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 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The BLP article on him included a reference to Jat origins, but that was unsourced. I have removed it there, and he will accordingly not be added here either. Actualcpscm (talk) 09:26, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 June 2023

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Add Krishna Poonia, Saina Nehwal, Manushi Chillar, Satyawart Kadian, Somveer Kadian, Vinesh Phogat, Sakshi Malik, Mahavir Singh Phogat, Babita Kumari Phogat, Geeta Phogat, Ravi Kumar Dahiya, Amit Kumar Dhankar, Saweety Boora, Nitu Ghanghas, Amit Panghal. Haryanvi Jedi (talk) 14:08, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Saina Nehwal:[1]https://www.jatland.com/home/Nehwal#Notable_persons
Rest have caste written as Jat on Wikipedia. Haryanvi Jedi (talk) 14:13, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Krishna Poonia: Krishna Poonia
Manushi Chillar: [2]https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/who-are-chhillars-some-facts-behind-the-now-famous-surname-and-how-it-is-pronoun/304601/
Satywart Kadian, Somveer Kadian:[3]https://www.jatland.com/home/Kadiyan
Sakshi Malik (Wrestler): [4]https://analystique.co.in/sakshi-malik-biography/
Geeta Phogat: [5]https://wikibio.in/geeta-phogat/
Ravi Kumar Dahiya: Ravi Kumar Dahiya
Amit Panghal:Amit Panghal Haryanvi Jedi (talk) 14:36, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Note: I simply inserted Manushi Chhillar; Krishna Punia's name was already there. Since the sources provided are not reliable and independent, other names are not acceptable at this time. DreamRimmer (talk) 15:55, 2 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Can you clarify about the requirement of the sources? Haryanvi Jedi (talk) 15:05, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Haryanvi Jedi: First of all Jatland.com is not considered reliable in Wikipedia. Second, news sources that mention them as Jats as third person is not enough. There is a WP:CONSENSUS at WP:INB according to which caste of living persons need to be self-identified, that is they have to say something like 'I'm a Jat' in an interview, that's only how it becomes valid here. For dead people, a reliable WP:Independent source such as a reliable news portal is enough. For example, Sidhu Moosewala's name got incuded here after he died, and we got many news sources caliming that he is a Jatt Sikh. Hope it is clear. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:51, 4 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 October 2023

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Please add name of Kanha Rawat (Chhonkar) in warrior, chieftain & rulers section in the following manner: Kanha Rawat(Chhonkar),a Hindu Jat of Chhonkar clan bearing title of Rawat,who fought against the oppression of Aurangzeb's Islamic rule and his policy of persecuting Hindus.He was buried alive in Delhi by Aurangzeb because he refused to convert to Islam. 45.249.85.8 (talk) 17:52, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done Please provide a reliable source. RegentsPark (comment) 18:08, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
https://www.jatland.com/home/Kanha_Rawat
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palwal_district (Check the history section of this page)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahin (Check the history section of this page) 45.249.85.8 (talk) 18:57, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
"Jatland" and "Wikipedia" articles are not reliable sources per WP:UGC. Find WP:HISTRS, WP:RS compliant sources - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:17, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
These are only sources I could find. Please it's my request do a research on my behalf and add this. He is my ancestor.He is a legend of Palwal district. 45.249.85.8 (talk) 19:23, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is bound by its guidelines and policies, so no, can't add. But most importantly Kanha Rawat doesn't have an article in Wikipedia. We can't add an entry to a list of notable people if we do not know about the person. So you have to draft an article of him per WP:WTAF WP:GNG and get it reviewed/passed, establishing WP:Notability in the process. After that we can look for reliable sources on his background (Jat). - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:53, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Misri/Egyptian and Ma'danid Zuttis

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Add: Al-Sari ibn al-Hakam and his sons Muhammad and Ubaydallah. They formed a temporary Zutti (Jatt) dynasty in Egypt. This was the first attempt at an independent Egyptian Muslim polity, heralding future Turkic attempts.

Add: Ma'danid dynasty. They were among the first regional Muslim polities in India, along with the Arab Habbarids and Multan Emirate. Al-Masudi reports that the region was governed by Jatts during their rule, and they used the title of Maharaja, suggesting Jatt origins. Their descendants are likely the Kaikan (Kekan) or Makran (Makad) Jatts. OperativePhase33 (talk) 21:28, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 March 2024

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Remove Shikhar Dhawan and Gen. VP Malik as they are not jats also to add recent sportspersons name such as sakshi malik(Olympic medalist) antim kundu,shubman gill, and a lot more, also adding subedar chotu ram sheoran(military cross), also adding baba garib das dhankar and a lot of persons in the singers list such as dhandha nyoliwala, mankirt aulakh, AP dhillon,Guru Randhawa, Karan Randhawa, Jass Manak, Shree Brar, Virender Brar, Khasa ala chahar, Laddi Chahal, Hardy Sandhu, Garry Sandhu, Devender Ahlawat and a lot more so kindly grant me the edit request to alter these Malikarpit27 (talk) 21:11, 24 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done For living people, there is a policy WP:CASTEID, per which we can only list names if they have self-identified their caste. For dead people, WP:RS sources will do, but not blog, forums or Wiki-like sources. The current list abide by the said policies. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:16, 25 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

dividing the page into sikh Jat and other jat communities

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I believe this page is mixed enough with pakistan's, Punjab and other jat communities. Majorly Punjab sikh should have a different page and must be removed from here. what are your opinions? HistorianV (talk) 02:22, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Opposing such a change. Otherwise we have to do that with every caste list article. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:50, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, you don't oppose the base idea just accepting that it's difficult to do right? HistorianV (talk) 01:15, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can spend a day to first seperate Sikhs from the List and if all goes well we can edit the Jat page. HistorianV (talk) 10:27, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well I'm clearly opposing it. Do not want loads of caste list sub-articles divided based on region, language and religion, when the existence of mega lists like this one were questioned at WP:INB before, but didn't come to fruition. You could propose at WP:INB, discussion pertaining to it will affect all similar lists. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Its non of your business dont encourage WP:POV to subdue the integrity of Jats Wikipedia policy are against intruder like you indeed@HistorianV Standardmate (talk) 05:25, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Standardmate: Anyone can suggest changes, staying within the limits of WP:TALK#USE ofcourse, and that doesn't make them 'intruders'. Note that nobody WP:OWNS Wikipedia articles and please maintain WP:CIVIL. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:29, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
for movement of time i don't want to bother him anyway but he suspiciously editing on wikipedia with same series and intrusive behaviour to encourage his own WP:POV which is against the morality of Wikipedia Core principal value Standardmate (talk) 11:38, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am updating new changes from books I read and new references used in those articles only. Talk like a civil Man. HistorianV (talk) 13:50, 14 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Polticians

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Add: Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain, 16th Prime Minister of Pakistan. He is the president of Pakistan Muslim League (Q).[1][2][3]

  1. ^ https://www.pmo.gov.pk/former_pms.php
  2. ^ https://www.gujratpakistan.com/2010/12/chaudhry-shujaat-hussain.html
  3. ^ https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Shujaat_Hussain
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