Talk:List of Hoya species

Reliable sources for species

I don't regard any of the three current references reliable for a species list. Albers & Meve is too old; The Plant List is obsolete; Tropicos does not set out to list accepted species, merely names. I would start with Plants of the World Online. Using multiple sources is highly likely to produce duplicates under synonyms. Peter coxhead (talk) 21:32, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Peter coxhead, for what it's worth, the list was copied directly from how it was at Hoya, with the addition of ten species that had articles but weren't on the original list. Tropicos does seem to distinguish between accepted and unaccepted names with the use of stars, so I'm not entirely sure it's unreliable? That being said, I don't know anything about botany, so if you want to chainsaw the list or completely upend it I'm fine with that. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 21:46, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The stars in Tropicos indicate names that are objectively unnacceptable (not in accordance with nomenclatural rules). Tropicos has references to sources that accept/don't accept a particular name, but doesn't make it's own subjective judgments about whether any name in accordance with the rules should be accepted or not.Plantdrew (talk) 23:00, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I gotcha. Thanks. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 23:01, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Plants of the World Online lists 521 species here. Peter coxhead (talk) 05:56, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've replaced the list by one from the World Checklist of Selected Plant Families, which uses the same underlying database as PoWO. This is extracted semi-automatically from the "Build a checklist" ability in WCSP. More tidying is needed, e.g. replacing abbreviations it uses in distributions. Peter coxhead (talk) 06:31, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

These two species aren't accepted by WCSP:

Hoya celebica = Hoya multiflora
Hoya valmayoriana = Hoya blashernaezii subsp. valmayoriana

so the articles need to be moved. Peter coxhead (talk) 06:38, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]