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Text and/or other creative content from List of Castle episodes was copied or moved into Castle (season 8) with this edit on September 14, 2016. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

"Ending with its seventh season's winter finale"

...was removed by AlexTheWhovian with the summary of "Not a big enough event to note." While that may be true, I am curious to see how many season 7 "end date" reverts will have to be done for those visitors who think the season is over, regardless of the number in the overview box. Sometimes I wonder why I'm still an editor. — Wylie pedia 11:11, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I highly doubt there will be many. I haven't seen any edits of this sort while being an editor. I did the same for Agents of SHIELD (that is, adding the "ending with the winter finale"), and it was removed for the reason I've given, and there hasn't been any edits for an end date. If a user adds an end date when 10 episode have aired, though the overview table gives 23, and there's promos out for the next episode, I don't think that they should be editing in the first place. AlexTheWhovian (talk) 11:17, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So, your justification is: because your similar edits were reverted twice (1, 2) on another page, you can revert other's similar edits on a different page? — Wylie pedia 11:25, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pretty much. The reasoning behind reverting the given edits of mine was rather sound. And it sounds like the reasoning behind your addition of the note about the winter finale is because you think that other edits are, put simply, stupid. AlexTheWhovian (talk) 11:29, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So, to review here, we have several someones not liking a simple added statement on TV articles designating a break, when the season finale article has a detailed mention in the lead? I love this website. I think I'll go on "holiday". (Oh, and y'all missed one, but I won't say where.) — Wylie pedia 11:40, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed.

"[T]he terms [..] began being used by some cable and broadcast networks in the United States" - Some, not all.
"[I]n order to make room for a mid-season replacement series" - Pretty sure a break of one month isn't enough time for a mid-season replacement series.
"[T]he next first-run episode of the current season picks up a few months after the previous first-run episode aired" - In our case, only one month, not a few.
"The "winter finale" definition is usually used to demarcate the hiatus of regular programming during the December Christmas and holiday season" This doesn't say that we have to add a note in an article about the winter finale.

And the fact that what you gave is just a regular article on season finales, not a Method of Style. Enjoy your holiday(s)! AlexTheWhovian (talk) 11:48, 13 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Renewal and air dates in the lead

Does the lead paragraph really need the renewal and first-airing dates of every seasons, from first to last? It's starting to look clustered, especially if the show goes on to be renewed for further seasons. AlexTheWhovian (talk) 13:21, 20 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's time to create episode guides of each season

We need to create separate episode guides of each season of this show before it causes clutter in space. BattleshipMan (talk) 19:53, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, adding a whole pile of redirects to the page,[1] is not appropriate. These links serve no useful purpose. Secondly, what do you mean by "before it causes clutter in space"? --AussieLegend (✉) 21:11, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For example, ER, The West Wing, Grey's Anatomy, The Mentalist, Law & Order & it's spinoffs and CSI and it's spinoffs have their separate episode guide for easy reading, knowing the production of each season and have release dates on the infoboxs from various regions. Castle doesn't have that and what it is now makes it harder for anyone to read, know about the DVD release dates, production information of the seasons and such. BattleshipMan (talk) 21:23, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you really feel that you can do it, there's nothing stopping you from creating drafts for all seven season articles, with production, ratings and DVD information and submitting them for review. That said, creating separate season articles doesn't provide for "easy reading" of the episode guide. Instead of having everything on one page, readers have to search through 8 separate articles for what they want. I don't see how that's easy. --AussieLegend (✉) 21:46, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

About all the X-Files season articles have good articles nominations because they have been sourced regarding the production, the cast, the episodes, the DVD release dates on those seasons in the respective regions. That's why we should split Castle's seasons and set up season articles as well. What list of Castle episode is that it doesn't have production notes of the various seasons and the DVD release dates of those seasons and that's why we need to set up season articles of that show. That's what your disregarding. BattleshipMan (talk) 21:49, 29 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's X-Files, not Castle. Firstly, you can already find the DVD releases here. Simply because other articles split the seasons, that doesn't mean that Castle has to. As AussieLegend said: Find the production and ratings information, and you're more than free to do it yourself. Unless, by "we", you meant "us"? If not, let us know when you're done. AlexTheWhovian (talk) 00:03, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is such lemming-like behavior. This article should be split because everybody splits, ad nauseum. The trouble is, for every substantive season article that someone actually builds, there are ten that are nothing but vehicles for a colorful fancrufty table listing all manner of minutae about individual cast performances and the cover of the DVD box. Ease of reading? Hardly. The existing table is clean, simple, concise and in one place. What could be better? --Drmargi (talk) 01:44, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So, what do you mean exactly? And the attitude of AlexTheWhovian was unacceptable. BattleshipMan (talk) 02:36, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, Drmargi. I personally find it neater to have the information on a single page (example, this article) then to have eight separate articles, one for each season (which will likely consist of some minor production details and one episode table), plus this main page. I know not what you're talking about, BattleshipMan - we are all giving you opposing reasons to your proposition in the most neutral of ways. I'd recommend some more substantial reasons as to why splits into separate articles would be beneficial for both Wikipedia and the users and editors that use it. AlexTheWhovian (talk) 04:00, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Because there are source articles that have guest actors who joined the show for episodes that they will appear in whatever seasons that they will appear in. We need production info for each season to know what is going on in various seasons like filming, who will be the series regulars in those seasons, who are the guest stars in those seasons, the reception of each season, the DVD release dates and the special features that are on them, which is why separate articles should be made. Also, there should be an consensus to have separate season articles of TV shows to have such information for that propose. BattleshipMan (talk) 04:52, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Then if you're able to obtain this information, I recommend beginning the creation of such articles in your sandbox. You're the only editor in this discussion so far who wants these articles, the rest of us have presented our opposing views. Best of luck, we look forward to your articles. AlexTheWhovian (talk) 05:16, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think what BattleshipMan says about separating the seasons in their own articles is right. We have too many seasons for the show and all those information cannot be found in the general "List of episodes". I was wondering why that didn't happen till now but I never had the time to actually create the articles that would be fully sourced. I support the creation and if BattleshipMan thinks that he can gather the information to do it, it would be really great to have them. Thanks TeamGale ^(talk) 09:43, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, TeamGale. And @AlexTheWhovian:, I told you and the others separating the seasons in their own articles is a good idea, regardless of what you guys think think. BattleshipMan (talk) 15:23, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"I told you and the others separating the seasons in their own articles is a good idea, regardless of what you guys think" - That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but it doesn't mean it's actually a good idea. As I said before, If you think you can create the articles, by all means create some drafts, and let us know so we can have a look. --AussieLegend (✉) 15:39, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

BattleshipMan, please focus on the issue, and avoid taunting or baiting other editors. Despite the highly visible drama generated by a very few editors, the majority of us still expect discussions to be civil. I agree with Aussie. Get to work in your sandbox and put your proposed articles where your mouth is. --Drmargi (talk) 17:12, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need for anyone to be rude. We all want to make WP better. The separate articles after all these years might be difficult to be made but it's not impossible if the information is out there, and it will take some time. Since someone offered to try and do it, if it happens it would be great. No need for any "side" to be rude. TeamGale ^(talk) 06:14, 31 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not completely opposed to separate season articles. However, those should be notably detailed in creation. To use CSI as an example, the latest one is not that, or, to be fair, neither is 7th season one (which Castle is up to), even with its doubling of Castle's viewership numbers. Creating separate season articles for the sake of reducing the episode list article size should never be a reason to do so. WP:SIZESPLIT suggests that, but it also states: "If the material for the new article is too short to provide encyclopedic coverage of the subject, or would simply duplicate the summary that would be left behind, then it may be too soon to move it. Unsourced material shouldn't be used to create new articles as it may have notability or verifiability issues." As stated above, try one out in a sandbox and see what the Wikiworld thinks. — Wylie pedia 21:24, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

BattleshipMan has been encouraged to build the articles in his sandbox, where we can review them, and for just the reasons you cite. If they meet the SIZERULE criteria, then fine, we can split. But so often we see lemming-like splitting for the sake of splitting with no substantive content, as I commented above. --Drmargi (talk) 21:26, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:TV#Parent, season, and episode article structure can also be a guide for those interested in attention to detail. — Wylie pedia 21:30, 3 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Another example of branching the season out is this. This was originally a "season" article as we know it, but was moved when nothing further was added to it. I'm not completely opposed to this idea for Castle to reduce the page length/load times. Where I'm against it lies in the additional travel to read the summaries for the episodes passed. If leaving everything here is to save navigation, then leave it here; if others have load problems, branch out. I don't expect the series to last much longer on the network, but it is a syndication darling, thus maintaining the episode article(s) visits. — Wylie pedia 05:49, 27 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Make references section unfold

Would it be possible to make the references a fold out section? It´s probably read by few, but takes up a lot of space. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.150.97.116 (talk) 16:08, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

MOS:SCROLL specifically says Scrolling lists, and boxes that toggle text display between hide and show, should not conceal article content, including reference lists. --AussieLegend (✉) 19:24, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Let's make separate entries for every season

Why don't we have a separate page for each season of Castle? Other ABC shows such as Lost, Alias, Scandal, Grey's Anatomy, How to Get Away with Murder, and even Quantico have separate pages for each and every season. Can't we have the same for Castle?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.96.166.159 (talk) 22:24, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

If you wish to work on season pages for Castle in the draft namespace, please, by all means go ahead. We're not stopping you. Alex|The|Whovian^? 22:27, 22 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]