Talk:Lise Thibault

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"The honourable" vs not honourable

Obviously the article subject is not particularly honourable, seeing as she is on her way to prison. However, unless her title gets revoked, it appears that she still gets to be called "The Honourable" for life... even in the slammer.^[1]HappyValleyEditor (talk) 05:38, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your source is wrong. By statute, members of the provincial council are styled "The Honourable", but lieutenant governors and cabinet ministers are not members of the council when they leave. That is different from federal officials who remain members of the Privy Council for life unless expelled. Federal senators and judges are also called "The Honourable" but lose the designation when they retire. You need to show a law that entitles Thibault to be called "The Honourable." TFD (talk) 07:42, 27 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I thought Bloomsbury publishing was a good ref. Every search I did shows the same infor as the source: Lt Gov generals are styled "the honourable" for life. In any case, here is an archive of a government published link-- Canadian Heritage. Here's the link.HappyValleyEditor (talk) 04:06, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here is the more current version of that page, which confirm my source. I don't see how you can argue with the official site for such protocol, as published by the Government of Canada. It might not be a law, but it is a fact.HappyValleyEditor (talk) 04:09, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Here also are some Wikipedia pages that back what I am saying: Pierre Duchesne and Jean-Louis_Roux both styled as honourable here on Wikipedia; the Wikipedia page The_Honourable#Canada also agrees with "honourable for life". TFD, maybe we're misunderstanding eachother? It seems plain as day to me. Could you come up with some sources that back up what you are saying, rather than just saying that the Bloomsbury source is wrong?HappyValleyEditor (talk) 04:35, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

You might be right. However, per WP:WEIGHT you would have to show that sources normally say that about her. Also, unless you can provide a primary source it is not clear it applies to her. Privy councilors for example are "The Honourable" for life, but an exception was made for one who went to prison. TFD (talk) 07:09, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what you hangup is with perfectly good government of Canada references as sources. I'll take this to an RFC since youa re being so unreasonable about it.HappyValleyEditor (talk) 09:41, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, scratch that last comment. I've got better things to do than argue with someone whose only effort here is to revert and make terse unhelpful comments. HappyValleyEditor (talk) 09:51, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

BTW here is a source that specifically says she holds the title of "The Honourable.HappyValleyEditor (talk) 09:57, 28 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Bloomsbury Publishing (10 October 2014). Titles and Forms of Address: A Guide to Correct Use. Bloomsbury Publishing. pp. 137–. ISBN 978-1-4081-0309-8.

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