Talk:Linda Oubré

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Article needs tidying and removal of original research

There is quite a bit of original research being added to this article, see WP:ORIGINAL for details on what is and it not appropriate for Wikipedia articles. For example, gathering details from scanned emails and tax forms are original research and should not be in the article. News articles about the subject from reliable sources are acceptable.

I will start by tidying up some of the duplicated citations, and then will remove the original research to allow the article to focus on what reliable sources say about Oubré. DaffodilOcean (talk) 09:16, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Immediately after the tidying up I did, an IP address with no prior edits has re-inserted portions of the text. One edit summary includes this statement "Support of MLK observance had nothing to do w/ the Scott gift.", which contradicts the statement in the citation that had been in the article [1]. The text that has been added back includes original research and links to user generated content. DaffodilOcean (talk) 11:10, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You have removed well documented evidence of Oubre's tenure at Whittier college. Are you on her payroll? 101.109.235.163 (talk) 15:03, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

this isn't LinkedIn. Oubre's poor performance is well documented in this page. Please use another site to promote Linda Oubre. 101.109.235.163 (talk) 15:20, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lol, Oubre made up the connection between the Scott donation and Bradford. The Free Press article on the donation provides more details https://www.thefp.com/p/what-happens-when-a-billionaire-gives. Once you read it you will likely want to quit your internship at Oubre's office. 101.109.235.163 (talk) 15:35, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is unhelpful in the extreme, 101.109.235.163, to behave as you have done in the three comments above. If you are unwilling or unable to forego personal attacks and work towards a consensus view of the content of this article, you will find yourself excluded from the process altogether. --Tagishsimon (talk) 23:47, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is a biography of a living person, so according to WP:BLP policy, "Wikipedia must get the article right. Be very firm about the use of high-quality sources." I have removed contentious content that appears to be poorly-sourced and a product of original research, based on BLP and WP:NPOV policies. I think further discussion here about the use of sources and the inclusion of content according to applicable policies would be beneficial. Thank you, Beccaynr (talk) 20:20, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As a follow up to my comment above - when I reviewed the article, I found what seems to be contentious content unsupported by sources; contentious content sourced to WP:FORBESCON; generally unsupported attributions; what appear to be self-published sources used contrary to BLP policy; and potential issues related to WP:UNDUE weight. So I essentially invoked WP:TNT to remove what appears to be the poorly-sourced etc content due to the caution BLP policy requires for biographies of living people. I later removed sources that appear contrary to WP:BLPPRIMARY and added a source from the Los Angeles Times. Beccaynr (talk) 00:43, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Which is all well and good. However there does seem to be content on reliable sources which is missing; right now there is no context whatsoever for the subject's resignation, nor her term of office, when clearly there is much that can be said.

It seems like a no brainer to say that savewhittiercollege.com is NOT a reliable source. However insidehighered.com, whittierdailynews.com and latimes.com, all of which have been used as cites for content which has been edit warred over the past few days, do seem to be RS. So probably the article is not yet in the right place. --Tagishsimon (talk) 00:49, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree the article seems capable of further development with reliable sources, and I see in the edit history that DaffodilOcean appears to have been working carefully with sources; I think the LA Times source I added may be helpful as well. Beccaynr (talk) 00:58, 12 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]