Talk:Lily McBeth

March 2006

Is this teacher notable enough to be on Wikipedia? There are many transgendered teachers. What makes Lily McBeth notable? -- ConDem 16:33, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I think she is notable because at age is 70 is relatively late in life for many transgender reassignments. I think after 70 years of being a male it would be interesting to note the transition into feminine life.

A quick random internet search with google revealed that there no one older than lily mcbeth to have undergone gender reassignment.

• When I saw this article myself, I questioned its notability. I searched "Lily McBeth" on google myself and found that her transition and the subsequent school board debate of whether to allow her to continue teaching were covered by some prominent news organizations, so I guess that might give her some claim to notability. But I did not find anything that said she was the oldest person to have ever undergone gender reassignment; I really don't think anyone knows who the oldest person to have undergone gender reassignment was, as many people who undergo such procedures do not make them public. Andrea Parton 05:58, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

• I think that if this is the reason that she's notable, it's got to be on the article, and if it can't be verified, then it probably shouldn't be. i say that unless we verify that her gender reassignment was particularly noteworthy, then we ought to delete it.... -- ConDem 01:20, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

• I have seen several articles on transpeople lately that have seemed either non-notable, or to contain elements of Vanity. The article on Jennifer Diane Reitz was recently nominated for deletion, but I argued for keeping it because Reitz is notable for her webcomics. A one paragraph article on Fulvia Celica Siguas Sandoval once contained three photographs, but I removed one and am considering removing a second, because they seem to me like vanity. Someone also recently wrote an article on a shemale porn star known as Vaniity; when I first saw the article, I considered nominating it for deletion, but I researched Vaniity on the internet and edited her article to give it neutrality and encyclopedic tone. When I first encountered this article, its style did not seem very encyclopedic, but I tried to fix that. But still, I don't know if this is notable enough to be encyclopedic. I am a transwoman myself and I like the fact that the transsexual community is well-represented on Wikipedia, but I do feel like a lot of vanity articles have been written on transsexual women. I've said pretty much all I can say on the matter, but feel free to nominate this article for deletion. Andrea Parton 05:58, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Verification

I would like to see confirmation that this is even true, like a link to something on the school district web site. Drudge Report showed this story last week, with a picture, and then this week showed a story of a gender-reassigned firefighter who looked, to me, suspiciously similar. I know some people like to get the media taken in with hoax stories. I'm not saying it's not true, but I would like some confirmation other than media outlets repeating stories they heard elsewhere. Jdavidb (talk • contribs) 16:18, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Can anyone explain why Lily McBeth does not appear on the Eagleswood Township elementary school website list of faculty and staff? Jdavidb (talk • contribs) 16:20, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Ah: perhaps the reason for this is that she is a substitute teacher? [1] Jdavidb (talk • contribs) 16:25, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Balance Template

The article reads like a vanity piece. I've marked specific queries, deleted the copy edit template and replaced it with the balance template. Unless neutral sources can be cited to establish notablity, I'd support deletion. --Whoosit (talk) 06:57, 9 August 2009 (UTC)