Talk:Lieutenant of the Tower of London

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Did you know... that at least five of the Lieutenants of the Tower of London were later prisoners in the Tower themselves?

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Allen Apsley (administrator) this needs checking, he is down as a lieutenant of the Tower, but his article has him as a Lord- lieutenta of the Tower and of Tower Hamlets. Richard Harvey (talk) 20:00, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for mentioning this. I've added a citation from the ODNB, which states he was appointed Lieutenant of the Tower. NinaGreen (talk) 23:34, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Robert Harley (1579–1656) entry for 1643? According to his article he was leading Parliamentary forces agains tthe King during that period. Surely that would preclude him from the position? Richard Harvey (talk) 16:04, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The ODNB article on Sir Robert Harley (bap. 1579, d. 1656) doesn't mention his Lieutenancy of the Tower. I took the information from the ODNB article on Sir John Conyers, which says:

Conyers, Sir John (c.1587–1664), royalist army officer...On 11 February 1642, after sustained pressure from both houses, the king assented to Conyers's replacing Sir John Byron as lieutenant of the Tower of London. Clarendon believed him ‘a soldier of very good estimation … having the reputation of one of the best officers of horse at that time’ (Clarendon, Hist. rebellion, 3.168). Conyers declined service in parliament's armies, and on 17 July 1643 successfully petitioned for leave to attend his affairs in the Netherlands where he held estates through his wife. He surrendered custody of the Tower to Sir Robert Harley on 11 August 1643.

I've just now added another citation from the House of Lords Journal stating that Conyers turned over the Lieutenancy to Harley. It seems it could be the same person, since pressure from Parliament forced the King to assent to Harley's appointment. What do you think? NinaGreen (talk) 16:48, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If the references are there then they take precedence over what I think. :) I've also noticed that the Edward Harley (Parliamentarian) article indicates Sir Robert was a KB. Richard Harvey (talk) 17:20, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Would you be interested in submitting this article jointly to DYK? NinaGreen (talk) 17:27, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the kind invitation, yes please. I actually had one of those a while back ( King Cross ), but can't remember how I did it. Richard Harvey (talk) 07:32, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I've nominated it (see below). NinaGreen (talk) 17:18, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

RE: Entry for Sir John Digby, during Henry VIII period. This may have been Sir John Digby (1450—1533) who was the Sheriff of Rutland, Warwickshire, & Leicestershire. If so it was a descendant of his, Sir Everard Digby, who was imprisoned in the tower in 1606, for his part in the Gunpowder plot and later hung, drawn and quartered. Richard Harvey (talk) 08:41, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]