Talk:Liederkreis, Op. 39 (Schumann)

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On 14 June 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved to Liederkreis, Op. 39. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Moved

I've decided to be bold and move this article from "Liederkreis" to "Liederkreis Op. 39". Schumann wrote two song cycles known as "Liederkreis", the other being his opus 24. This move makes it clear which we are talking about (and, as far as I know, this is the usual way to distinguish them) and allows for another article to be made about opus 24, as I hope to soon. Heimstern Läufer 18:32, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved it to Liederkreis, Op. 39. There's always a comma between the name of the piece and the opus number. -- JackofOz (talk) 03:38, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Name in English

It means simply "Song cycle". I've always wondered why we pretend this is a title like "Dichterliebe" (Poet's Love) or "Schwanengesang" (Swan Song).

If some German composer wrote an untitled "Sonate", "Symphonie" or "Konzert", we'd translate them as "Sonata", "Symphony" and "Concerto" respectively.

Why not "Song cycle" in this case? -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 11:16, 5 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 14 June 2023

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – Material Works ping me! 20:11, 21 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Liederkreis, Op. 39 (Schumann) → Liederkreis, Op. 39 – The Opus number is perfectly sufficient for disambiguation (though personally I think something like "Liederkreis nach Eichendorff" might be more enlightening). In any case there's no need to clutter up the title with Schumann's name. SaryaniPaschtorr (talk) 19:01, 14 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is a discussion about a closely related request at Talk:Liederkreis, Op. 24 (Schumann)#Requested move 14 June 2023 where objections are raised which apply here, too. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:22, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per all the multiple opposes on the other RM. This kind of title cutting is not remotely helpful to real readers. In ictu oculi (talk) 13:45, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per all the multiple opposes on the other RM. Johnbod (talk) 15:42, 15 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.