Talk:Liberal Party (Mexico)

Political position...centre-left?

Not sure how that works when the Liberal Party's ideology was laissez-faire. As in, capitalism more unrestrained than what modern conservatives prefer. That would be centre-right to just straight out right wing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8800:1100:347:EC02:15CF:D05E:D851 (talk) 22:58, 11 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Political position

There seems to be a ongoing issue with the political position of this party. They were not, nor were their policies leftwing. However such statements are always problematic in regard to the past. Do we mean from a perspective of the past, or from a modern perspective? Either it should remain as it is, e.g. Centre to Centre right, or remove position from the infobox. But I don't think changing it to Leftwing or Centre left is supported by the sources. 89.241.33.89 (talk) 20:29, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Just noting this is in response to the NPOV tag that was placed on the article, as no discussion had been started.89.241.33.89 (talk) 20:30, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think we should describe the political position in the infobox of this party article.--Storm598 (talk) 21:36, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Political parties in the 19th century should write down the political position of the 19th century. Articles related to political parties in the 19th century in Europe are writing in line with this standard.--Storm598 (talk) 21:31, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Liberals (classical liberals) in the 19th century were center-leftists against conservatives in the 19th century. Further to the left are radicals and socialists.--Storm598 (talk) 21:34, 23 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Agree to disagree on the what the correct position was. But I do agree with removing it, ideologies are already stated. 89.241.33.89 (talk) 23:42, 24 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Their position was called "left-wing" in 1822 because of secularism and republicanism. However, in 1911 clericalism in Mexican politics has almost completely died out, while such ultra-left ideologies as Socialism and even Communism gained ground. Some were even in favour of violently destroying religion altogether. So in the revolutionary 1911 realities the party was "right-wing". The actual position of the party did not change much, however. In total, I think it can be called "centrist". Or not call anything at all. Just say that in 1822 the emphasis was on secularism and republicanism, and in 1911 on anti-communism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.249.40.132 (talk) 09:21, 14 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]