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"First Vice-Premier"

Since an unhelpful IP user has engaged in disruptive conduct and reverted my edits now three times, I would like to address the topic in the discussion here. The IP user gives a source to China's official government website, but that website says nothing to the title "First Vice-Premier". Indeed, there probably is no official translation of the title from the Chinese government, so we must rely on how the title is treated in the English-speaking world. One of the authoritative sources for this is the Jamestown Foundation, which is known for its expert analysis on Chinese issues. Here the translation is "Executive Vice-Premier" (http://www.jamestown.org/single/?no_cache=1&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=4757 [copy the full URL]). This translation is also supported by the CIA world factbook (https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/world-leaders-1/world-leaders-c/china.html).

The Chinese media does not explicitly use the term "国务院第一副总理", which is what the IP user relates to for the translation of that title. Literally it means "First Vice-Premier of the State Council". The last time such a title was used explicitly in Chinese media was when Deng Xiaoping was elevated after his purges in 1972. This was to signal that during the incapacity of Zhou Enlai, who had cancer, Deng ran the show. I do not recall any other premiers past him using "First-Premier" as an explicit designation (perhaps a brief interlude of Hua Guofeng), since no Premiers after Zhou was severely ill while in office. In the absence of an official designation, the best we can do is find what most English-language sources say, and the majority say 'Executive Vice-Premier'. So please, stop the reverting. Colipon+(Talk) 15:52, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

The Vice Premier of the State Council of the People's Republic of China (simplified Chinese: 中华人民共和国国务院副总理; traditional Chinese: 中華人民共和國國務院副總理; pinyin: Zhōnghuá Rénmín Gònghéguó Guówùyuàn Fùzǒnglǐ) is a high-ranking executive assistant to the Premier. There is a First Vice Premier (第一副总理), sometimes called Executive Vice Premier (常务副总理) wrongly by the non-official media. It is an informal title and takes over duties of the Premier at the time of the latter's incapacity. In addition, there are numerous other Vice-Premiers who assume certain broad portfolios.

This man needs more attention

Wow, the prospective premier of China hasn't got a decent page here? Please let's get this built! Can we start with how to pronounce his name. 116.49.231.230 (talk) 17:42, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

Language skills

Does anybody know if he can speak any other language than Chinese? Saw him talking with Germanys chancelor Angela Merkel these days but in which language? German? English? Russian? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.144.121.105 (talk) 09:06, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

Refimprove and 'tone' tags

Could the user who tagged the article explain specifically what they take issue with and what they are looking to change? I agree that the tone could be improved but rather than populating the article with tags, just dig in! It is not good enough to just drive-by tag and expect everyone eles to pick up the slack. At least, please discuss on the talk page about what needs to be changed. Colipon+(Talk) 20:03, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

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Needs some quick work. Colipon+(T) 00:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

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Manufacturing and technological innovation

Some of this is blatantly copied from the BBC article about pens. I don't have time to fix it right now but I can take a stab later, unless someone else wants to dig in first. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Odd Hornet2 (talk • contribs) 15:39, 4 September 2018 (UTC)

BTS:JIN MILITARY

BTS Jin is leaving for the military. BTS coming back on 2025. 67.87.12.127 (talk) 21:58, 17 October 2022 (UTC)

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