Talk:Leyland Titan (front-engined double-decker)

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The RTL page should not be combined with the Leyland Titan page. These are different buses from different manufacturers, despite outward similarity to the untrained eye. It's like suggesting combining a Volvo cars page with the Saab cars page.

But it could be combined with the RT (bus) page. EnglishElectric 11:19, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

But according to these three pages ([1], [2], [3]), the RTL is a variant of Leyland Titan (PD2). :) ADS190 13:30, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, I withdraw my comments.

I was not aware that the RTL was actually a Leyland Titan PD2 chassis - I was under the impression it was AEC subframe fitted with a Leyland engine. Those three reference give compelling evidence that I am wrong & RTL is essentially a PD2 - therefore can be legitimately added to the Leyland Titan page. EnglishElectric 13:05, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Disambig page?

I'm not at all convinced that this is the primary use of the term "Leyland Titan" given that Leyland Titan (B15) is a more recent type wth more coverage in reliable sources and gets as many page views. Wouldn't it be better to have a disambig page here and move this article to Leyland Titan (front engined double-decker) or something similar? Alzarian16 (talk) 01:39, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, good idea. Arriva436^{talk/contribs} 07:58, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Excellent. I've just done it, so hopefully no-one objects. Alzarian16 (talk) 10:02, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

To be fair there are a lot of sources for information on the Titan ALPD PD and TD and I've got lots of them at home so I'll just try re writing the entry to get it up to say the std of the Worldmaster article (with inline citations)

Stephen Allcroft (talk) 13:45, 7 June 2012 (UTC) Stephen Allcroft

Web link improvements?

Can someone with more skill at Wiki syntax sort reference 5 (the link to bus photo pages 34 & 35 of the LTM website) while I get on with fettling the rest of the article and trying to add later sections? It's been driving me nearly as nuts as changing signatories on the Bank of Scotland's clubs & societies account has IRL.

Stephen Allcroft (talk) 13:56, 14 June 2012 (UTC) Stephen Allcroft

Done. {{cite web}} is a tricky one to use, but the template page has some good instructions on it if that helps at all. Alzarian16 (talk) 14:19, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Whoops Article too Long:

Help needed! suggest a split into Leyland Titan (TD1-8) and Leyland Titan(PD and OPD series) Stephen Allcroft (talk) 16:14, 14 June 2012 (UTC) Stephen Allcroft

I basically agree with this. The pre- and post-war versions are reasonably distinct topics, both of which are clearly notable, and the current article is long enough that splitting the content seems to be recommended as an acceptable type of content fork. For titles I would suggest something like Leyland Titan (TD series) and Leyland Titan (PD and OPD series), which seem to identify the topics they would cover well and are consistent with each other.

One thing I would suggest is that we leave an article at the current title as a shorter summary of the full history of the type, which is also recommended by a guideline (Wikipedia:Summary style). There seems to be lots of links to this page that refer to the type as a whole rather than a more specific variation, so having a general article to link to in those cases seems like a good idea. Alzarian16 (talk) 15:13, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the support, I've done a lot of the donkey work on the two articles. If you like I could put them in the general sandbox so that people can have a good check at them before they go live. I support your idea of a summary article too. Stephen Allcroft (talk) 12:44, 19 June 2012 (UTC) Stephen Allcroft

I should have the articles (all three fully fettled and ready to go by next week at latest. Stephen Allcroft (talk) 11:14, 20 June 2012 (UTC) Stephen Allcroft

PD2/11

Although it was obviously not Leyland's intention at the time the chassis codes were created, the two batches of PD2/11s supplied to Leeds Corporation in 1955 (comprising the entire production of this model) were fitted with Pneumocyclic gearboxes. This fact remained well hidden for many years, with sources quoting the Leyland intention for this model code rather than the actuality. Nevertheless it is self-evident from the preserved examples which survive, and the advent of internet forums has given voice to local sources who remember it from the time. The challenge now is to find a reliable written source. Wollygobble (talk) 16:42, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

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