Talk:Leonor Teles

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Requested move 23 July 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved (pending deletion of target). — kwami (talk) 17:40, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Leonor Telles de Meneses → Leonor Teles – The current title is half in current orthography and half in archaic orthography (complete archaic would be Telles de Menezes). Most sources nowadays use current orthography, just as any modern source would for any name really (spare exceptional cases, of whom this article's subject is not). Cristiano Tomás (talk) 03:07, 23 July 2015 (UTC) --Relisted. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 08:02, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I would opt for Leonor Teles (without the Meneses) as she appears in current literature as well as in the chronicles of Fernão Lopes and Pero López de Ayala. Eg: * Pina Baleiras, Isabel de (2013). Uma rainha inesperada: Leonor Teles (in Portuguese). Lisboa: Temas e Debates. ISBN 978-989-644-230-9. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help) Also, recently moved in pt.wiki to Leonor Teles--Maragm (talk) 05:36, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Her name is Leonor Teles, not Leonor Teles de Meneses. For all the authors, Anselmo Braamcamp Freire. To call her de Meneses it's historic ignorance. Jorge alo (talk) 15:50, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Then lets make her Leonor Teles! Cristiano Tomás (talk) 21:06, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

No, she was already Leonor Teles, but you can make here also Leonor Teles, as all the historical alphabetized people. The name of family de Meneses came one or two decades after. By the way, the Melos and some other few cases where the pioneers in giving their families the name of a land, not of an ancester. Abraço, Jorge alo (talk) 21:49, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What? Look either way we have to correct the mixed orthography mess of this article name - it should then be Leonor Teles. Cristiano Tomás (talk) 22:43, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There are no "What?" nor "Look", she has been always Leonor Teles on history and (amazing!) also in her letters. The problem is that your proposition included a name, Meneses, that is wrong. Conclusion: you where wrong in your proposition (and, from my point of view, a ignorant of history). Moral da história, the "What?" and the "Look" is: She can not be called de Meneses. Jorge alo (talk) 23:15, 30 July 2015

And a complement: You have to correct nothing. That thought it's a illusion. Jorge alo (talk) 23:28, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Like I'm trying to follow you, but your sentence structuring makes it impossible to do so. Either way, it seems we all agree, the article name should become Leonor Teles. Cristiano Tomás (talk) 01:33, 31 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Why are all the names in this article in English? Is it partially copied from Britannica? Is it really too hard for English language readers to have to read "Juan" instead of "John," or "Fernando" instead of "Ferdinand"? Pascalulu88 (talk) 12:37, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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