Talk:Leeds City Council
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[edit]Can someone please upload the New City Council logo! and also please change it to said logo on here. also we need to use the actual coat of arms (Just the coat of arms not the Leeds City Council bit) on Leeds page and not the old council logo. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.153.187.28 (talk) 01:33, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
Merger Proposal
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- The result of this discussion was to keep separate articles LNWWatcher (talk) 22:18, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Suggest that Lord Mayor of Leeds is merged into Leeds City Council. The Lord Mayor is a ceremonial post fulfilled by a member of the council, and as such it makes little sense to have them separate, especially given the extent of the current Lord Mayor of Leeds article. LNWWatcher (talk) 15:09, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
- Seems reasonable enough to me. Hans Adler 16:53, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose. The Lord Mayor is a person and thus distinct from governance. I would also oppose merging all the other "Lord Mayor of" pages with the councils. The fact that the article is presently short does not mean that it should go.Chemical Engineer (talk) 17:32, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
- Every single Lord Mayor is a person, but this article is about the office, which is simply the presidency of the city council. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a dictionary. In an encyclopedia, closely related topics are covered together in a simple, comprehensive article, unless there is a good reason not to do so. As I understand this proposal, it is not about deleting information but about reorganising information so that it is presented in a more appealing way. Hans Adler 19:29, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
- Oppose: there is a Category:Lists of mayors of places in England, into which it would not be sensible to put the article for the whole council. This information is more accessible kept in this separate article, where it can be put into appropriate categories. The article could be expanded in future to list more of of the individual Mayors and Lord Mayors, though at present all this information is made available through the link to the Council's pdf file. It would be better to aspire to an article like Lord Mayor of Sheffield. PamD (talk) 10:11, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
No real consensus to merge, and another user has added in a section for the Lord Mayor. Will close and leave as is. LNWWatcher (talk) 22:18, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Plurality at large?
[edit]I've never heard this term, but the description doesn't seem to match reality. Can't think of right term today - got a bad cold. Any ideas? PamD 13:36, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
- @MSRC: why isn't it just first past the post? PamD 14:02, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
- @MRSC:: oops, just realised why I haven't had a reply to the above. Trying again with username spelled right. PamD 12:49, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- First past the post would be one vote for one seat, as in parliamentary elections. For council elections, within each ward, we have a list of candidates from each party and multiple votes that we can distribute as we wish. All candidates are standing against each other and there are multiple winners. MRSC (talk) 16:01, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- @MRSC: But in Leeds there is almost always only one seat being elected for each ward, except in rare circumstances where there is a byelection as well as a normal election, when two seats might be filled for one ward. I don't think that "plurality at large" is a helpful description here, as it gives a wrong, and confusing, impression. (Leeds councillors are three per ward, and elected for 4 years, one each in years A, B, and C, with no local elections in year D - when the county council elections would be held, had it not been abolished). PamD 17:40, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- Ah yes, of course. Multi-member seat with staggered elections. What do we call that electoral system? And do we call it something different to councils elected once every four years? MRSC (talk) 19:02, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- @MRSC: But in Leeds there is almost always only one seat being elected for each ward, except in rare circumstances where there is a byelection as well as a normal election, when two seats might be filled for one ward. I don't think that "plurality at large" is a helpful description here, as it gives a wrong, and confusing, impression. (Leeds councillors are three per ward, and elected for 4 years, one each in years A, B, and C, with no local elections in year D - when the county council elections would be held, had it not been abolished). PamD 17:40, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- First past the post would be one vote for one seat, as in parliamentary elections. For council elections, within each ward, we have a list of candidates from each party and multiple votes that we can distribute as we wish. All candidates are standing against each other and there are multiple winners. MRSC (talk) 16:01, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- @MRSC:: oops, just realised why I haven't had a reply to the above. Trying again with username spelled right. PamD 12:49, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Having consulted The governance of Britain: review of voting systems, the experience of new voting systems in the United Kingdom since 1997 (2008), I think we should call it Multiple member first-past-the-post voting. MRSC (talk) 19:11, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
- That sounds much better. To me, at least, it conveys something where "plurality at large" was completely incomprehensible as a phrase I've never met. (And I've been moderately involved in local politics and election campaigning, in Leeds.) PamD 23:12, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
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Updates needed
[edit]The diagram showing the political make-up of the council needs to be updated to reflect the 2024 local election results. Also, because of the boundary changes, the parliamentary seats covering each electoral ward also need updating. Thanks - Mark and inwardly digest (talk) 17:20, 5 July 2024 (UTC)
- I've done the constituencies now, but the political make-up diagram still needs doing. Mark and inwardly digest (talk) 10:10, 16 July 2024 (UTC)