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Ousted?

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According to the BBC Nkunda has lost his leadership position. I'll let the news play out a bit before working on the article. Hiberniantears (talk) 18:43, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently still disputed. For example [1] suggests that the UN still think he is worth meeting with.Geni 22:11, 10 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What is he fighting for?

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There's an article/essay describing the motivations quite well (hint: preventing repetition/continuation of Rwandan Genocide). 87.194.198.122 (talk) 12:22, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Edit protected... why?

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Why has this page been edit protected? Seeing history, it has attracted very little edit vandalism - nowhere near the level normally required for a page to be protected. I did notice a page move to some random name earlier today and the administrator NawlinWiki who protected this page also stated that the reason for him/her protecting it was Page-move vandalism. Then it should be page-move protected, not edit protected. Unfortunately, this administrator has also semi-protected his entire talk page, making it impossible to ask if, as I suspect, a mistake happened here (I've seen other admins with semi-protected pages, but at least they usually have a sub-page that is not semi-protected). 212.10.87.226 (talk) 14:02, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Its sad that such a stance is being made on so many articles just because of one individual. 211.30.119.55 (talk) 01:57, 27 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

General Nkunda Was Not Captured

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According to the CNDP (The Nation Congress for People’s Defense), the organization that Nkunda was the official chairman of until his detention around January 23, 2009, he was not captured while trying to flee anyone. That is a cooked-up story by Rwandan officials. He was invited by Rwandan authorities to attend a strategic military conference. While there he was detained, something Nkunda actually knew might happen (see below). Below are a CNDP press release and an excerpt from an article regarding his "arrest".

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PRESS RELEASE FROM THE CNDP’s POLITICAL LEADERSHIP

Bwiza, January 23th, 2009

source: [2]

1. It is with great dismay that the CNDP was informed from the DRC’s official media about a press release signed by the Inspector General of the Congolese National Police, General John NUMBI. This communiqué was largely relayed by national and international media and was announcing, on behalf of the coalition of the DRC’s armed forces (FARDC) and the Rwandan Defense Forces (RDF), the arrest, on the Rwandan territory, of Major-General Laurent Nkunda MIHIGO, the CNDP’s Chairman and Chief Commander of its armed wing, the ANC.

2. The CNDP's political leadership would like to take this opportunity to express to the national and international community, its outrage and sadness for what appears to be an unjustified arrest from the highest Rwandan military authorities. In fact, Major-General Laurent Nkunda MIHIGO responded spontaneously to their invitation in order to talk about the implementation of the IHUSI/Goma statement on the stalking of the FDLR. Thus, he went to Gisenyi/Rwanda through a regular itinerary in the Congolese territory, secured by both the FARDC and the ANC/CNDP; the axis JOMBA-RUTSHURU-KIBUMBA-KABUHANGA.

3. At this stage, the CNDP's political leadership has no information and clarification on the purpose of a such procedure a the very time when a peace process under the supervision of the United Nations, African Union and the International Conference of the Great Lakes Countries was underway in Nairobi between the CNDP and the Congolese Government for the peaceful resolution of the crisis in Eastern Democratic Republic of Congo.

4. The CNDP’s political leadership reminds the national and international community that the disarmament of the FDLR/ex-FAR/ Interahamwe who created insecurity both in the DRC and Rwanda is a shared goal. Therefore, the Movement has willingly agreed to take part in the operations designed and conducted by the Congolese and Rwandan coalition. Its participation was expressly authorized by the ANC/CNDP’s Chief Commander, Major-General Laurent Nkunda MIHIGO.

5. The CNDP’s political leadership calls on Rwandan authorities who facilitated the collaboration between the FARDC and the ANC/CNDP in this agreement on joint operations against the FDLR / ex-FAR / Interahamwe, to show more responsibility in ensuring neutrality and impartiality as it has to be in every international mediation. It would be incomprehensible that one of the parties to the agreement against the genocide actors be concurrently the target, as it seems actually to be the case.

6. The Movement’s political leadership wants particularly to ensure that solidarity and cohesion of its members, both in civilian bodies as well as military units remains unwavering and that their loyalty to Major-General Laurent Nkunda MIHIGO, Chairman of the Movement and Chief Commander of the ANC, remains total.

Done at BWIZA on January 23, 2009.

For the Political Leadership

Serge KAMBASU NGEVE G.M

Executive Secretary

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Eyewitness Account of Nkunda’s Arrest by Rwanda

source: [3]

Sources close to General Nkunda and his family report that Nkunda remained consistent in his admonition to “turn the other cheek” towards enemies in the face of his betrayal by Rwandan authorities. Nkunda was not “hunted down” as celebrity-with-access to Rwandan President Paul Kagame, Ben Affleck, reports in Time Magazine. This story was apparently cooked up to mask the Rwandan government’s treachery while smearing Nkunda’s integrity and respectability. This eyewitness, who must remain anonymous for fear of retaliation from Rwandan intelligence, tells the true story that has been emerging from various sources:

The Night when General Nkunda wanted to go to Rwanda he knew they (would) kill him or arrest him, all the commanders refused he can go they said. “We will fight till the last to protect you.” But he said: “We did not go in the bush to protect me but to protect our people. So if they have to fight us, they will kill our soldiers and we will kill our cousins from Rwanda, what will be the price of the bloodshed? So let me go for Peace to come.”

One of Nkunda’s loyal soldiers and aids reported Nkunda’s last public words as he was about to be arrested:

He said: “When David wanted to go to fight Goliath he was afraid but when he hear that Goliath abused the name of God he said, let me fight him because he don't know God. The last words General Nkunda he said was: "Let me go to them because they don't know GOD." We cried all of us even the commanders. M…. and the deputy Chief of Staff accompanied him. They released them after.

Signed,

MacWriter (talk) 01:34, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

First, please don't just copy and paste large chunks of text here. A link is fine. I have hidden the mass of text, though it is visible by clicking the "show" link.
Second, a CNDP press release is considered less credible (See Wikipedia:Reliable sources) than the BBC, so it would be disregarded it those two were the only sources being compared.
Third, the article National Congress for the Defence of the People, which I recently expanded, better explains the background and describes it as an arrest. I have replaced the BBC-backed description with an IRIN-backed description. - BanyanTree 01:53, 13 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Out of date

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This biography is quite out of date. A lot has happened since 2010 relative to Nkunda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.186.11.214 (talk) 20:30, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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