Talk:Lars Løkke Rasmussen
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Jeez
[edit]Is there some rule that to be prime minister of Denmark, your surname has to be "Rasmussen"? john k (talk) 20:48, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- It is indeed humorous that the past three have had this name, counting Lars. While amusing, though, I don't think it belongs in the article, and have previously removed an addition of this. -Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • count) 20:50, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- I think it would be fair to note that this Ramussen is not related to his predecessor; or that none of the three have been related; or whatever. It is a pretty unusual situation - is there anything comparable in any other country? I suppose there have been multiple unrelated Indian prime ministers with the surname "Singh," but Singh isn't really a real surname, and even there the three PMs named Singh haven't all been in a row. john k (talk) 20:56, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- I suppose you could be right about that. Go ahead and add it, if you want. -Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • count) 20:59, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- I think it would be fair to note that this Ramussen is not related to his predecessor; or that none of the three have been related; or whatever. It is a pretty unusual situation - is there anything comparable in any other country? I suppose there have been multiple unrelated Indian prime ministers with the surname "Singh," but Singh isn't really a real surname, and even there the three PMs named Singh haven't all been in a row. john k (talk) 20:56, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- The explanation must be that Rasmussen is a very common surname in Denmark -out of 5,5 mil. people, 100000 are called Rasmussen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PeterKL (talk • contribs) 15:52, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
- It is not even the most common surname in Denmark, however. I suppose that it's really one of those "law of large numbers" issues - given the number of leaders of the western world (that is to say, of countries that have surnames in our sense of it) over however long a period of time, it would seem likely that eventually you'd get a bunch with the same surname in a row. Just like it will eventually happen that you'll get three leaders in a row with the same birthday. john k (talk) 16:16, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Hello John Kenny. As a Dane I can tell you that we really don't think about the fact that we've had three 'Rasmusen' as PM in a row. That's because all three PM's have special, not common used, middle names (Nyrup, Fogh and Løkke). So when we read the headlines in a newspaper or see the news in TV, they'll often just use the middle name as reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wunderwaffe (talk • contribs) 21:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Party leadership
[edit]Can someone please confirm the exact status of party leadership. The Danish version of Wikipedia, when run through Google translator, says it is anticipated Lokke Rasmussen will become leader of the party, which suggests there will be leadership election or something of the sort. This page uses "designate", which suggests he has already been elected and is waiting to officially take up the position (i.e., being sworn in or having the official vote announced at a party meeting). If the first is true, this page should say "Acting Leader". At any rate, it would be greatly appreciated if someone could clear this up. -Rrius (talk) 08:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- He has to be elected at the party's national congress. The party is expected to set a date for this meeting soon. He won't be leader officially until this has taken place. -Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • count) 08:27, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- I'm going to change it to "Acting", then. Thanks for the quick response. -Rrius (talk) 08:38, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- Or is that wrong? The party's article suggests that AFR remains leader until the party election. Should he be "leader-presumptive"? -Rrius (talk) 08:43, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- AFAIK, AFR is indeed the leader until the election. Acting implies that AFR has resigned this post, which I don't think is the case (the Danish media haven't really gone into detail on this, that I've noticed) - presumptive would probably be better, but we may be getting a bit into WP:OR here... -Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • count) 08:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- I agree with the OR concern. Should we just eliminate the references in the lead and succession boxes to the leadership until we either get more information? -Rrius (talk) 09:13, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- AFAIK, AFR is indeed the leader until the election. Acting implies that AFR has resigned this post, which I don't think is the case (the Danish media haven't really gone into detail on this, that I've noticed) - presumptive would probably be better, but we may be getting a bit into WP:OR here... -Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • count) 08:46, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- Or is that wrong? The party's article suggests that AFR remains leader until the party election. Should he be "leader-presumptive"? -Rrius (talk) 08:43, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- I'm going to change it to "Acting", then. Thanks for the quick response. -Rrius (talk) 08:38, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Mujahedin section
[edit]An anon user removed this section. I undid it as it was unexplained. It is true, and well-sourced. However, it may well be worth not including due to WP:UNDUE. I actually think it belongs in the article; I just wish it didn't take up about a fifth of the article because it still isn't very long. What does everybody else think? -Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • count) 14:23, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
- It has been rewritten, but it is extremely annoying that people keep insisting on adding anecdotes of him dressed in a local outfit as "relevant". He travelled in a war-torn country and was disguised as a local, and the locals were armed at the time. Another current MP was dressed in a burkha (amazing that anybody fell for that trick). Later, Jørn Stjernklar asks him to pose for a snapshot. This entire episode is not even mentioned on the Danish wikipedia, but it seems extremely clear why it has been repeatedly inserted here; because somebody thinks it is funny to try to portray the Danish Prime Minister as if he were a terrorist. When this article was first "expanded", it stated that Løkke Rasmussen provided funds for Afghan terrorists, and the entire article was very short with this "tidbit" on a very prominent position. Well though luck, those money went to local schools, as stated in a credible reference - and support for those schools indeed led to Danish critique; how could anyone imagine giving money to separate boys' schools and girls' schools, rather than only to integrated schools. Needless to say, insisting on trying to paint an image of a current prominent, serving politician as a terrorist is a position that expressly violates of WP:BLP, WP:UNDUE and WP:LIBEL.83.89.16.138 (talk) 15:50, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- Small correction. The same story with the same problems had indeed been included on the Danish Wikipedia as well. By the same throwaway account that added it here. 83.89.16.138 (talk) 16:35, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
- There is no problem with including the story - please refrain from deleting it without providing anything else than a strawman argument. It is not intented to portray Rasmussen as a terrorist, and and does not do so in regards to the background story provided to explain the trip. --AarhusJ (talk) 21:31, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- Small correction. The same story with the same problems had indeed been included on the Danish Wikipedia as well. By the same throwaway account that added it here. 83.89.16.138 (talk) 16:35, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
"Refining policy regarding use of children's/minors' names", a section at Wikipedia talk:Biographies of living persons
[edit]I've just removed the first names of the three children. There's an active discussion on whether names of children not notable in their own right should be included in articles. There's a call for clarifying policy in this regard. - Hordaland (talk) 14:44, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
Pronunciation
[edit]Can anyone add the correct pronunciation of 'Lars'? This is always read as 'lahz' by English speakers but I suspect that this is not how Danish or Swedish bearers pronounce their names.--AssegaiAli (talk) 14:42, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
- I can't do those phonetic symbols, but there is no Z-sound; it's an S. The R is sounded in many Norwegian and Swedish dialects at least, but the pronunciation of it varies a lot from place to place.
- Then there is the Ø in Løkke. In Løkke, it's a short vowel. It is similar to or can be isolated from the E-sound used by most English speakers in her or father. - Hordaland (talk) 00:31, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
- I'm going to suggest that American English speakers certainly do not pronounce it as "Lahz". Not pronouncing the "r" is a British English thing, not a universal one. john k (talk) 18:18, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Majority
[edit]"In the September 2011 parliamentary election, the government lost its parliamentary majority, and on 16 September 2011, Rasmussen tendered the government's resignation to Queen Margrethe. He will remain in office as head of a caretaker government until a new cabinet is appointed." This paragraph should be rewriten Denmark usualiy has minority goverments, and the danish parliamentary system does'nt require a majority in favor (negative parliamentarism). After the sep. 2011 election he had a majority against him, which is why he had to go. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.145.236.194 (talk) 10:24, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
Vandalism
[edit]Again some vandalism. Should it be protected? --Per W (talk) 14:38, 17 November 2016 (UTC)
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