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On 11 August 2012, it was proposed that this article be moved to List of landings on extraterrestrial bodies. The result of the discussion was moved.

Merging with List of artificial objects on extra-terrestrial surfaces

This article should not be merged with the List of artificial objects on extra-terrestrial surfaces because many landings do not leave all "artificial objects" taken with them for the landing. Indeed, all of the Lunar landings have left parts of the lander behind but to get the astronauts home large parts of the "artificial objects" taken with them have to return to Earth. Therefore there would be a discrepancy between the actual landings and the list of artificial objets; i.e. the list of artificial objects is semi-independent to the landings, as each landing mission can leave many or few objects on the surface, and all such manned missions brought peices of the landing equipment back with them.

Manned landings take some of the artificial ojects back to Earth with them, can I stress this enough?

Leave the pages as they are I say.

The only thing that should be changed is the title of the article "Landings on other planets". When did the Moon become a planet? When, eventually, a spacecraft lands on a comet (e.g. the Rosetta mission) or a Kuiper Belt object, are they to be listed in the article titled "Landings on other planets" too? If they are, they shouldn't be. The distintion between planets and other Solar System bodies is well docmuented (e.g. recall the recent change of Pluto's status from planet to dwarf planet).

How about changing the title to "Landings on Solar System bodies" or something similar?

121.44.244.188 05:38, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge notice has been here for a long time. Discussion on both articles say each one ought to stay. So seems no compelling reason or rush to merge them, so have removed notices from both pages.
- CharlesC 19:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

EU flag for ESA missions

The ESA is not an EU organization, so using the EU flag for ESA missions is misleading. (sdsds - talk) 04:44, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

column heading "country" should be changed to "agency"

We should change the column header from country to "agency" as more and more missions may include participation of the ESA which is not affiliated with any single country or any association of countries it is an independent association of the efforts of multiple countries. We could keep some country flags but the name of the actual agency should replace the name of the country. The EU flags should probably be replaced with the ESA logo or something unless the ESA turns itself over to EU control.Zebulin 17:22, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pluto landing

The final comment on the pluto landings suggest people are on pluto and are burning firewood 'since it's very cold there'. I'm not a science person, but that entry looks suspicious to me, so i suggest somebody check up on it.

--A Person With A Listening Problem (talk) 11:07, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it wasn't people. Walt Disney launched Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse and Goofy to Pluto. They were burning firewood up there and they brought back Pluto. That was in 1929 and Walt Disney and Clyde Tombaugh made a pact: Disney got the rights for the dog and Tombaugh got the rights for the planet. When Tombaugh died in 1997 there was a nine-year legal dispute, so not until 2006 the IAU (International Astronomical Union) was allowed to reclassify Pluto as a dwarf planet. But all that is classified and cannot be published in Wikipedia. -- Agent Mulder, X-files dept., FBI 16:40, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

LCROSS

2009 US moon impactors missing from list Alinor (talk) 15:31, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I added those to the list. --Gwano (talk) 01:28, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sun "landing"?

Does anyone know if any manmade satellite has ever met its end by crashing into the surface of the Sun? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Piece.of.eight (talk • contribs) 19:29, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 15:05, 18 August 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

Landings on other planets → Landings on extraterrestrial bodies – List includes moons, comets and asteroids in addition to planets. 86.179.3.32 (talk) 03:19, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Additional comment: If list articles should be titled "List of..." then change the suggestion to "List of landings on extraterrestrial bodies". 86.179.3.32 (talk) 03:34, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. The term "extraterrestrial bodies" is more accurate than "other planets". "List of landings on extraterrestrial bodies" is probably what the title should be, since this article is actually a list. mgeo talk 06:20, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support - What exactly is meant by "other"? "Extraterrestrial" makes this clear. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 10:31, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- I'd be extremely wary of anyone who had to question which planet was excluded by saying "other planets". Powers ^T 15:08, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support move to List of landings on extraterrestrial bodies. Powers ^T 15:08, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support, it makes sense. Aerospace1 (talk) 18:39, 12 August 2012 (UTC) — Aerospace1 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Comment (from proposer) Rather confusingly, someone who presumably did not see this discussion has renamed the article from "Landings on other planets" to "Landings on other planets and bodies" since the discussion was started. I propose nevertheless that it is renamed again to "List of landings on extraterrestrial bodies" per above discussion. 86.176.208.101 (talk) 01:26, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I know... I should have checked the talk page but I have moved the page to "Landings on other planets and bodies" without looking here. Feel free to move it to a newer title. I have also restructured the list a little since Moon is not a planet and Jupiter is a planet. -- A Certain White Cat ^chi? 12:27, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Include failed missions

There was a mission last year for Mars by Russians that failed to leave orbit. I think such failed missions should be on the list. Also I am thinking of moving natural satellites as a sub section of each planet when applicable but adding moon to such a list is confusing. We would need an "Earth" section in such an event while excluding all earth landings. -- A Certain White Cat ^chi? 13:07, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

If you want to do it that way, I don't see any problem with continuing to have a separate section "Moon" without a parent "Earth". It's hardly likely to confuse anyone. Before adding failed lander missions, it may be useful just to check how many there are. I'm not sure if we want to be copying over large numbers of early-era failures from List of Solar System probes, and having a cutoff date for inclusion seems rather arbitrary. Maybe it's enough to have the failures at the full list at List of Solar System probes... 86.177.105.213 (talk) 20:49, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is an organization issue though. I would prefer the format to be Planet (section) -> Satellite (subsection). We do not want to list stuff landed on Earth so it would be two section markers perhaps. -- A Certain White Cat ^chi? 01:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

I understand what you're saying, but I don't personally think it matters to have the Moon as a section heading on the same level as the planets. That's how it's always been done at List of Solar System probes (well, until the lunar probes were hived off to a separate article because the thing was getting too big). 86.160.216.218 (talk) 11:41, 16 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

MESSENGER and Mercury

Now, they must be added to the list — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zarateman (talk • contribs) 2015-05-01T13:40:17

Done -Ninney (talk) 08:52, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

planets

I am a fari prinnses from a fare away land siek venus is the hottest planet leaving pluto that is no longer a planet the coldest — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.114.232.103 (talk) 23:19, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

OSIRIS-REx

The OSIRIS-REx probe took samples from asteroid 101955 Bennu, therefore it should be added to the asteroid landing section. 212.186.15.63 (talk) 07:35, 21 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]