Talk:Land of the Lost (1974 TV series)/Archives/2013

Campy

Do you have to emphasize that it was "low budget" three times in the essay? Of course, it's "campy" and quaint compared what's available today, 30 years later. The sets, costumes and special effects were elaborate compared with other television shows. Even then, movies could splurge on the latest technology in special effects, but no advertizer would spend so much to produce a weekly television show. Would you dare tell a "Trekkie" that Star Trek was a campy "low budget" show for the same reasons?

I would hope that a healthy Trek fan (of which I consider myself a passionate example) will appreciate that it was indeed a campy low budget show, and that its appeal comes largely from the way the ideas transcended the production quality. Krofft productions were low budget even for the time, though I think you are right that it was the scale of the ideas and not the size of the budget that was important. I am attempting to make some changes to emphasise that more. I do think the "camp" appeal is an important part of the cultural context, more so than with a show like Star Trek. BarkingDoc

I think there's a couple sides to this. "Campy" implies more than just a low budget. Compared to other similar shows, this was quite well done. They hired talented writers and did the best they could with their budget. It still may be campy, but we don't want to give the impression that it's dreck that people only watched for irony.--RLent (talk) 15:24, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Radio show

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I think the 1945 radio series "Land of the Lost" by Isabel Manning Hewson should be mentioned, even though it is unrelated to this TV series. Perhaps this page should become a disambiguation page and the information on this page transferred to something like Land of the Lost (TV) and the radio series could be Land of the Lost (radio) (or perhaps Land of the Lost (1974) and Land of the Lost (1945)). The radio series certainly deserves its own page, BTW. It was one of those special children's shows that my parents' generation fondly remember from the 1940s. The "Land of the Lost" book by Hewson (as well as the EC Comics series) itself has its followers. Kaijan 06:58, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I agree that the page should include a disambiguation link at the top, but I'm not entirely sure how to create that. If someone knows how to do this already and can get to it before I go figure it out, that would be awesome if they could go ahead and do so. Rray 12:42, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Land of the Lost pylon shape

Anon, you've planted sufficient doubt in my mind that I'm going to ask the LotL mailing list for clarification on the shape of the pylons. The episode writer's guide has been wrong on other the details before; some of the details of the series were apparently changed after it was written. I'll post additional sources here as I get them. Bryan 16:15, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I haven't managed to dig up anything definitive, but several respondants on the mailing list said they thought the pylons were square too and nobody else said triangular. I think I'll have to bow to the majority on this one. :) Bryan 21:17, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Shortening

The friendly notice at the top of the page when one clicks "edit" states that the article is over 40 KB long, and I was wondering if people thought of any way to cut the fat, and make the article more FA quality. I was thinking perhaps to move the episode list to its own article, with a link in "See also" or something of the sort, as well as various edits and grammar fixes. Tell me what you think, [[User:Mysekurity|Mysekurity]] ^{[[additions | e-mail]]} _{10:41, 14 September 2005 (UTC)}

I cannot image why the article needs to be as overwhelmingly detailed as it is. We have made it a general standard in television articles to include only descriptions of the overarching themes, production information, and major plot points, with linked pages dedicated to minutia such a character bios and descriptions of single episodes. I am going to try and do a quick breakdown of this article into a similar format. BarkingDoc 04:17, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I have STARTED the process of organizing the articles, but I am not under any delusion that it is finished. This is all the time I have to devote now, but from here it should be a matter of going through the three articles to make sure they are accurately phrased and cross-referenced. Hope this helped. BarkingDoc 05:10, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

The reason I originally wrote it all as one big article was on account of the complaints I sometimes see about "fancruft" - I figured an article on a crazed prospector who appeared in one episode of a relatively obscure 1970s childrens' show was likely to be VfDed at some point or another. :) Plus it was simpler keeping track of everything when it was all in one file like that. I'd intended to split it up a bit eventually when it got long enough, I just figured 40K wasn't long enough yet. The dividing lines you used seem pretty good to me, though I did do a little tweaking of the titles. I'll help out with the crossreferencing in days to come. My main problem now is figuring out whether I should create a Land of the Lost category to hold the two sub-articles... Bryan 08:18, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Writers

I am far too drunk at this point to even begin an edit, but I believe the article should reflect the top-notch talent that were writing for this show. I refer you to http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071005/fullcredits#writers for a list of the legendary figures who contributed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.9.38.54 (talk • contribs)

That's all at List of Land of the Lost episodes now. It used to be part of the main article but got split off. You're right, it does need mentioning in the main page, I'll see that it gets worked back in somehow. Bryan 05:36, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

It's in the main page as of this writing, and as of now, it has reliable refs to back it up. Lawikitejana (talk) 17:24, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Valley of the Dinosaurs

This Hannah-Barbara show has a near identical premise right down to entering a valley of dinosaurs through a whirlpool while white water rafting. It aired on the same exact date 9/7/1974 and also ended in 1976. I want to claim that one is a rip off of the other but the identical date seems to suggest against this. Anyone have more info? Maybe they're the same show from parallel universes?RevelationDirect (talk) 23:43, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

"Wesley"

They are doing the marathons since the movie is coming out. They start the credits with just "Wesley" What the hell is with using just the first name for him. Was he supposed to be some hot shot back then or just another twit thinking he was cool enough to just go by on name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.190.4.245 (talk) 18:42, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

A twit; definitely a twit! He is hardly Cher.RevelationDirect (talk) 17:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

im going to guess that since he was also playing in the soap opera Days of Our Lives, the producers may have demanded he be credited under a different name, so that audiences for the soap opera would not balk at having their "real" character played by someone who was also in a silly kids show. thats sheer speculation, but its likely true. No, he was not that big, and i really doubt he thought he was that big.76.234.122.26 (talk) 03:28, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Oganza Bisassa

I think the phrase "Oganza bisassa" (big magic) has been used enough by people to warrant a wikipedia entry, or at least added to the "Land of the Lost" page, perhaps as a memerable quote or something. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.56.76.106 (talk) 00:51, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

In the original Lutu-Spakean version of the Apocalypse of St. John, one of the warning signs of the coming Apocalypse was the creation of "the wicked and forlorn tale of Oganza bisassa, which was repeated 9000 times all across the land, in glowing letters too wearisome to read". so please dont create this article unless you are ready for the second coming to start.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:35, 29 June 2010 (UTC)