Talk:Laminar armour

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Lorica Segmentata is a laminar armor from 9 B.C. to 3rd Century A.D. That & the fact that there is not section dealing with post-Medieval laminar armor from Europe (the Polish Hussar's anima armor (laminar armor held together by sliding rivets) didn't show up until the Renaissance) means the organization of this page needs to be addressed to accommodate new information.2601:1:A981:F850:9483:E9F2:4F:C26B (talk) 22:42, 18 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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umm "laminar armour became more reliable than laminar ones" and then later "laminar armour became much more popular than laminar ones"... I'm guessing one of those in each sentence should be "lamellar" not "laminar", but I'm not sure which so someone should fix that. From my brief skimming though it seems like the second instance is the one needing changed. 65.190.50.223 (talk) 20:16, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

thanks! fixed! (Idot (talk) 02:29, 3 April 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Melange

Putting Polish anima style armor or bands in the same context as Roman lorica segmentata is a bit of a conceptual melange. Theblindsage (talk) 08:30, 16 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lamellar vs. laminar

Starting to question the reality/utility of 'laminar' armor as a category. May just be a confusion in pronunciation w/ 'lamellar'. It's a confusion between lamellar armor (interlaced armor platelets) and 'lames' that make up the additional arm and leg defenses of 'splinted mail' (as seen on crusader tomb effigies). Theblindsage (talk) 03:16, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lamellar armor are armors made from individual small scales that are laced to each other, laminar armors are made from individual rows of armor that are laced to each each other, two different types of armor, any armor that is made from rows of armor that are laced to each other is considered to be laminar no matter what other name it has. Samuraiantiqueworld (talk) 05:07, 19 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Could I get a cite on this? Theblindsage (talk) 08:58, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lorica Segmentata is not laminar armor--it's Lorica Segmentata.

I still do not understand why the perfectly acceptable and commonly used term "segmented armour" has been replaced with "laminar armour". Cons: 1- Laminar-laminated armour is unfortunately often used to designate "plated mail": possible source of confusion. 2- Laminar-laminated armour is unfortunately often used to designate "lamellar armour": possible source of confusion. 3- Laminated armour is in fact accurately used to describe sandwich armour constructions made from layers of different materials (metals, textiles, carbon, ceramics, liquids, etc.), and not just in an armoured vehicle context: possible source of confusion. 4- Why then talk about a "lorica segmentata" when this name is not derived from Roman sources, but a modern invention? Do we now have to change that into "lorica laminata" too?87.212.52.128 (talk) 13:15, 19 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"Plated mail" is the neologism. And malapropism. In Western Europe, a coat of plates is an intermediary between mail and plate armor. But there is an entirely different tradition of using mail to join plates together. It's available anywhere from Japan to where the Muslim Conquest reached(Spain, the Maghreb, the Near East, India).
What did the Romans call it?Theblindsage (talk) 08:58, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Dear blindsage, a coat of plates is not an "intermediary" between mail armour and plate armour, and it is not made by using mail to join plates together. The plates of a coat of plates are most often joined by a flexible cover or lining, usually made of leather, to which the plates are attached by nails. Using mail to join plates together is usually called "plated mail" (see the Wiki reference), but if you have a better alternative for this neologism please offer it to the relevant site, I would be very interested.87.212.52.128 (talk) 08:15, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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