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Changing the title

New Zealand has two new classes of patrol vessels, inshore ones and offshore ones. The article for the offshore patrol class is titled: "Protector class OPV", which seems reasonable. For consistency I suggest we rename this article "Protector class IPV" - Geronimo20 09:53, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Either that or change the other one to Royal New Zealand Navy Offshore Patrol Vessel. Certainly there should be consistency either way.DerbyCountyinNZ 02:57, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Er, I just saw this when updating the article assessment. I already changed the name to Protector class IPV as per WP:NC-SHIP. Specifically, we only add a ship's nationality to the class article's title when it is necessary to disambiguate it from other nation's ship classes of the same name. --Kralizec! (talk) 15:18, 28 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The IPV's in NZ, are more commonly known as "Lake class" patrol vessels. Basically replacing the old Lake class from the 80's and early 90's. The Moa class the article talks about were the reservist's vessels and the article is wrong that these were replacing them.

Class off vessel

I bearly understand where the Protector class name for these vessels came from. However, they are "Lake Class" replacing the older lake class IPC's. (even though there were years in between the old and new) ... also the names all lakes in New Zealand two in the North Island (Taupo, Rotoiti) and two in the South (Pukaki, Hawea), pennant numbers are the same and are a carryover etc...

It says they were replacing the Moa class IPC's, well actually no they weren't, 7 Moa class were built and 4 became reservist craft/vessels and stationed around the various reservist bases, Auckland, Wellington, Christchurch and Dunedin one became the dive tender and two were painted white and were inshore survey... they were never actually replaced, they hardly never did long patrols outside of their area of influence and were mainly to keep the training for the reserves ... they did the odd patrol... but not like the older Lake IPC's ... whereas, the current IPV's do and have the carryover names and pennant numbers.

The Protector-class is the OPV's HMNZS Wellington and Otago. HMNZS CANTERBURY is a Protector-class "amphibious and military sealift vessel"

On the Navy Website the IPV's are classed as "Lake Class" http://navy.mil.nz/mtf/rotoiti/default.htm

The page needs to be corrected and updated and on all pages related to it.

That's a good point. As well as the Navy's website, the gold-standard source on this topic Jane's also uses Lake-class [1]. I've moved the article. Nick-D (talk) 04:09, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In operation

I have tried to get it right as far as I see it from the Navy's page and the delivers dates from other sources. Seems only one is active, with the others at various stages from seat trial to still being built. Ingolfson (talk) 10:47, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Purpose of IPV

What was the operational role of these ships? They were basically unarmed and few sensors, and had limited speed, range or seaworthiness.Royalcourtier (talk) 05:42, 17 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

See the "Design and construction" section: they're patrol boats intended for policing-type tasks near the coastline. Nick-D (talk) 06:35, 17 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

They were/are mainly fishery patrol vessels, and armed with 50 cal machine guns on the bridge wings. I am also pretty sure they were "fitted for but not with" for 25mm typhoon on the forecastle... but I can not find the document that said this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.94.38.207 (talk) 01:55, 15 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]