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NPOV + Undue weight

This article is absurd leftist propaganda. The section on laissez-faire capitalism is 7 (sic!) times smaller than the section on socialism. Despite the fact that the text itself says: "laissez-faire has been commonly associated with capitalism".

Meanwhile, Google search:

Laissez-faire capitalism - 9,230,000 results
Laissez-faire socialism - 902,000 results
"Laissez-faire capitalism" - 313,000 results
"Laissez-faire socialism" - 1,710 results

As you can see, the difference in the number of results ranges from 10 to 300 (!!!) times, which is not reflected in the article. The article falsely promotes the idea that there is some kind of "laissez-faire socialism", when the sources on this term are completely marginal compared to "laissez-faire capitalism". 5.228.4.240 (talk) 12:36, 8 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I think the obvious solution is to split the article. let's make this one about laissez-faire capitalism (could even change the name to laissez-faire capitalism) and then just link to laissez-faire socialism article Meistro1 (talk) 10:49, 11 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To be fair, 313000/1710 is only 183, not 300. —Tamfang (talk) 00:54, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Meistro1 @Tamfang @5.228.4.240 "Socialist" should be changed to "non-capitalist" or "anti-capitalist" because for example Thomas Hodgskin was a Whig and he is described by some (for example, Diego Zuluaga) as a classical liberal.

Hodgskin proposes his own radicalization of what in law is called specificatio (or accession), laissez-faire and free trade. The author explicitly draws on John Locke's labor theory of property acquisition. See Labour Defended and the Natural Right and Artificial Right of Property Contrasted by Hodgskin.

Benj. R. Tucker expresses the same concept in Instead of A Book. 93.45.229.98 (talk) 18:00, 26 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

tucker was also a socialist, at least when it came to economics. he opposed interest and profit, and was a hyperinflationist (like Proudhon). Meistro1 (talk) 01:36, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

etymology of liberism

In Italy, philosopher Benedetto Croce created the term "liberism" (derived from the Italian term liberismo),

This seems to say that before Croce there was an Italian word liberismo, from which Croce made the English word liberism; I suspect that is not accurate. —Tamfang (talk) 01:07, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You're right, it's unclear. Croce coined "liberismo" ("liberism" is the anglicized word). 93.38.68.62 (talk) 15:57, 17 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Use of the "Gadsden flag" to represent Laissez-faire?

When the hovering tool-tip page preview in articles that link to this (Laissez-faire) article (i.e. from Corporatism such as the section here https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Corporatism#Fascist_corporatism ) the page preview contains the Gadsden "don't tread of me" flag. I don't think this is representative of the article.

I cannot see where this flag is being referenced in the article - I suspect in some HTML "hidden popup hint" as per https://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation_popups#Features whereby the image shown in the preview can be controlled by adding an image hint to the article, in the form of an HTML comment such as <-- popup File:Desired Preview Image.jpg -->.

But this is beyond my editing skills to resolve.

Can someone correct this page? 89.242.207.237 (talk) 11:55, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]