Talk:La Masia/GA1
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Reviewer: TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 04:58, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Please use T:AH to organize the talk page so I can understand the concerns of the prior reviewers. I think I see about three prior peer reviews and an official copy edit. I want to make sure I have an understanding of what the past issues have been.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:00, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- If the reason that this has not been done is because you are unfamiliar with the template and unable to convert the talk page yourself let me know.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:08, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- Gimmebot does that sometimes, I don't know how to. Sandman888 (talk) 18:18, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- O.K. I will do it myself in the next day or two and then begin the review.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:26, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
- I just formatted it. I will look through the issues and start commenting in the next couple of days.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:26, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
- O.K. I will do it myself in the next day or two and then begin the review.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 05:26, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
- Gimmebot does that sometimes, I don't know how to. Sandman888 (talk) 18:18, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
Opening comments:
- General
Remove spaces preceding references or between adjacent references.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:11, 8 October 2010 (UTC)- Only found one, please let me know if there are more. Sandman888 (talk) 10:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- LEAD
Barcelona's success is ambiguous to me. Did the youth academy lead to success by the city or the team?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:11, 8 October 2010 (UTC)- Clearer now? Sandman888 (talk) 10:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- History
It seems to me that La Liga should have a link.- Is there no history between 1988 and 2007?
- Not very much I'm afraid, most focuses on the recent success of Barcelona and Spain. Sandman888 (talk) 10:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- I don't understand this sentence: "The success of La Masia as a talent school has been ascribed by Ian Hawkey of The Times " and why isn't The Times linked?
- Is it better now? Sandman888 (talk) 10:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- I don't understand the choice of the word ascribed.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:29, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
- Is it better now? Sandman888 (talk) 10:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Link some of these regions since many english speakers are not familiar with regions of Spain: About half of them were from Catalonia, and the rest came from other regions of the Kingdom of Spain and beyond, including 15 from Cameroon, 7 from Brazil, 5 from Senegal and 3 from Argentina. Of those 500, about 10 percent made it into the first team.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:11, 8 October 2010 (UTC)- All linked Sandman888 (talk) 10:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
- Organisation
- You talk about the cost, but don't mention a tuition cost to the players.
- comprise should probably be "are comprised of"
- Is there a link for "2009 10 season"--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:38, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Checklist
[edit]- It is reasonably well written.
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (references):
b (citations to reliable sources):
c (OR):
- a (references):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects):
b (focused):
- This article is quite deficient in terms of covering the history.
- a (major aspects):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- I am not so sure about the licensing of File:Masia-AmorFerrerMussonsGuardiola.jpg
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
- Because of my concerns about the history, I am requesting a second opinion.
- Pass/Fail:
2nd opinion
[edit]- Short of listing all of the players who graduated through the academy in the seven years between 1990 and 2007, I don't think that is a particular problem to have this "gap".
- The word ascribe is a synonym of attribute, see wiktionary:ascribe. Jezhotwells (talk) 11:57, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
- The image File:Masia-AmorFerrerMussonsGuardiola.jpg. Tony asked me to look at the licensing. The license is definitely wrong. This is a photograph of a photograph, so the copyright belongs to the original photographer. I have nominated it for deletion at Commons, but it might be OK on English Wikipedia with a suitable fair use rationale. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:51, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
- This article is on hold awaiting final responses from the editor.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:54, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks to both of you for the reviews. I've removed imaged and replaced ascribed with the synonym. Sandman888 (talk) 09:08, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
- This article is on hold awaiting final responses from the editor.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:54, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
I am now satisfied and am passing this article.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:10, 14 October 2010 (UTC)