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Reviewer: Cambalachero (talk · contribs) 17:27, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The article is only starting, and nowhere near GA.

Cambalachero (talk) 17:27, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Cambalachero Thanks for reviewing. I am bummed to see this article failed without having a chance to resolve concerns. I think you can expect some editor feedback here, and I hope you will revisit so we can make this article as good as possible before we re-nominate. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:46, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Same here. I expect there will be some other comments here as well. Historyday01 (talk) 18:54, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose I should have been more clear. The main reason why I failed the article (and why I did so directly) is because the length of the paragraphs. Not just because of their small number of lines, but because the article lacks meaningful content. An article is a topic (in this case, the relation between Wikipedia and the LGBT), the sections are subtopics, and the paragraphs explain things to properly understand the topic or subtopic. In this article, basically all paragraphs just drop a piece of information and then simply move to the next one, without any development. Take for example: "In some cases, particular language editions of Wikipedia have slanted toward anti-LGBT content. The Croatian Wikipedia has been criticized for advancing anti-LGBT propaganda and for other reasons. In addition, only active administrator of Amharic Wikipedia, at one point, enforced the Ethiopian government's anti-LGBT laws on the wiki." Is that all? This leaves more unanswered questions than solid knowledge. What is "anti-LGBT content", exactly? Why do different language editions have different approaches to the topic, instead of a single one? Who criticized the Croatian Wikipedia? How did it advance anti-LGBT propaganda? Did someone do something about it, or is it still happening? Why does the Amharic Wikipedia have a single administrator? What do those Ethiopian laws tell to do? How do local laws affect the content and editing of Wikipedia articles? But don't answer me. The point is, re-read the article with the eyes of someone who knows little or even nothing about Wikipedia and the LGBT community, and consider, can it be understand? Does it properly inform the reader in a meaningful manner about the relation between the LGBT community and Wikipedia?
The rest is just accessory, but to clarify the acronym thing, the usual system is one used now: "lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT)" the first time, and then just LGBT in later uses. LGBTIQ+ is simply another acronym (even if related), so the same method must be used with it. This should be done at all articles that use those acronyms. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Abbreviations has a list of exceptions, acronyms that are so well known that do not need to be spelled out, but LGBT is not among them. A point can be made that LGBT could be a well-known exception as well, but adding it would require a RFC that should be open for a time (and of course, an affirmative result is not guaranteed); right now, at the time of the review, it was not an exception so I requested to proceed accordingly. Cambalachero (talk) 17:07, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Another Believer, are you planning to renominate soon? I think the article is better. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 00:52, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@MyCatIsAChonk@Historyday01  Done ---Another Believer (Talk) 14:03, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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