Talk:LGBTQ rights in the Middle East
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German versions of Klauda works
[edit]It's important to have these, so that in case someone wants to write about this in French, Arabic, etc. they can translate directly from the original German.
We have the German version of one:
- Klauda, Georg. "With Islamophobia against Homophobia?" (Archive). MRZine, Monthly Review. 12/11/07. Originally published in German in: Arranca! (Für eine linke Strömung, DE) 37 (October 2007) as "Mit Islamophobie contra Homophobie?" (Archive).
I just have to get the other one WhisperToMe (talk) 23:31, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
Found another:
- Klauda, Georg (English translation by Angelus Novus). "Globalizing Homophobia" (Archive). MRZine, Monthly Review. 08.12.10. Previous version appeared in Phase 2 No. 10 (December 2003). Also published as the first chapter of Die Vertreibung aus dem Serail: Europa und die Heteronormalisierung der islamischen Welt (Berlin: Männerschwarm-Verlag, 2008). Start page 15.
Start text: "Nach dem 11. September 2001 war eine der liberalen Rechtfertigungen für die militärische Intervention gegen Afghanistan die Unterdrückung der Frauen, aber" (and the title of the chapter is "Postkoloniale begegnungen") WhisperToMe (talk) 06:38, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
Old profile page of Before Homosexuality
[edit]http://www.press.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/hfs.cgi/00/158218.ctl - See archives on Wayback Machine: http://wayback.archive.org/*/http://www.press.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/hfs.cgi/00/158218.ctl WhisperToMe (talk) 23:40, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
I found a book review of this book, so it may be a good idea to gather more book reviews and write a Wikipedia article on the book itself!!!
- Eich, Thomas. "Before Homosexuality in the Arab-Islamic World, 1500-1800 by Khaled el-Rouayheb (book review)." Die Welt des Islams New Series, Vol. 46, Issue 2 (2006), pp. 226-228. Published by: BRILL.
WhisperToMe (talk) 23:42, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
Sabine Schmidtke on Europeans in the 19th Century and the Arab world
[edit]From:
- Schmidtke, Sabine. "Before Homosexuality in the Arab-Islamic World, 1500-1800 (Book Review)" Bulletin of the School of Oriental and African Studies, University of London, 2006, Vol.69(2), pp. 319–321. ISSN: 0041977X ; E-ISSN: 14740699. On JSTOR. p. 319 says:
- "In poetry the masculine beloved was as a rule translated into feminine, and sensitive passages were often rendered into Latin rather than French or German. [My note: It means homoerotic Muslim poetry was changed to target the female instead of the male, and Klauda talks about this in his works] By the same token, representatives of the homosexual liberation movement that emerged during the nineteenth century incorporated Arabic and Persian love poetry with homosexual connotations into their literary canon. Translations of the Arabian Nights, of Shaykh Nafzawrī’s Perfumed Garden and of poetry by Abū Nuwās or Sa‘dī are even now among the titles to be found in virtually every list of gay literature."
She stated that in history European travelers and scholars "were astonished, often disgusted" (from same page!) to encounter the same-sex poetry and actions in the eastern world.
I wonder where more information on this can be found, and even if there is a way to write an article on 19th Century European interactions with the Arab-Muslim world in regards to homosexuality WhisperToMe (talk) 16:37, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
- There was a time, everyone(except eastern world) shared same view. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 17:02, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
On Samar Habib's book
[edit]So far I have one review:
- Stockdale, Nancy L. "Female Homosexuality in the Middle East: histories and representations SAMAR HABIB" (review). Women's History Review, 2012, Vol.21(3), p.501-503 [Peer Reviewed Journal]
In order for this to pass WP:GNG it needs two reviews. WhisperToMe (talk) 07:19, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
- With 2-3 reliable sources we can make a page about the book. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 07:37, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Social pressure
[edit]I'm afraid I don't understand this statement: "Furthermore the reports of official and social discrimination on sexual orientation remains unfounded because of social pressure of not to discuss LGBT matters". Contaldo80 (talk) 11:00, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Dearth of references
[edit]There is not a single inline citation provided for any of the statements made in the lead. Obviously, this is unacceptable and should be corrected immediately.72.49.235.222 (talk) 07:26, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
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Klauda
[edit]I'm sorry - I don't want to risk edit-warring but I took out the following: "Klauda wrote that the Europeans had "have brought about and sorted out" homosexuals "as a distinct "minority" through a centuries-long process of normalization in the first place" It simply does not make sense - either grammatically or in terms of what point it's trying to make. If someone wants to put it back then tidy it up first - otherwise it's gibberish. Contaldo80 (talk) 16:35, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
"The Kingdom in the Closet" by Nadya Labi from The Atlantic
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- Thanks for the heads up, Newslinger. The two responses already made there are correct and quite comprehensive. I don't have anything to add. Moneyspender, if you still have concerns about this content, or if you're unclear about some WP policies and guidelines, please discuss here or at RSN before removing it again. Eperoton (talk) 04:01, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
Correction: it *was* being discussed the discussion is now archived. Moneyspender (talk) 10:14, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Iraq LGBT
[edit]In Iraq homosexuality is legal since 2003 unless there are changes recently with references; so it’s legal even though in practice very dangerous Nlivataye (talk) 14:48, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
Under a morality law LGBT can still be charged and jailed for 6 months with fines. Plus, they face torture, killings, beatings and other stuff done by cops, judges, Sharia Courts and ISIL. Lmharding (talk) 13:01, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
Orphaned references in LGBT rights in the Middle East
[edit]I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of LGBT rights in the Middle East's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "EoQ":
- From Sodomy: Everett K. Rowson (2006). "Homosexuality". In Jane Dammen McAuliffe (ed.). Encyclopaedia of the Qurʾān. Vol. 2. Brill. pp. 444–445.
- From LGBT in Islam: Rowson, Everett K. (2006). "Homosexuality". In McAuliffe, Jane Dammen (ed.). Encyclopaedia of the Qurʾān. Vol. 2. Leiden: Brill Publishers. pp. 444–445. doi:10.1163/1875-3922_q3_EQCOM_00085. ISBN 90-04-14743-8.
- From God in Islam: Böwering, Gerhard. "God and God Attributes". Encyclopaedia of the Qurʾān.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 16:06, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Anti-propaganda law
[edit]There is an item in the map's color-key called "Anti-propaganda law", and the color is associated with Iran. There is no explanation in the article as to what "Anti-propaganda law" has to do with LGBT rights. In the associated article on LGBT Laws in Iran, there is also no mention of "Anti-propaganda law" in relation to LGBT rights or laws. This is confusing and appears to be a mistake as there does not seem to be a connection to "Anti-propaganda law" nor what that means or has to do with LGBT rights. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brianjgolfer (talk • contribs) 18:03, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Palestine West Bank
[edit]West Bank which inherited Jordanian law it’s legal since 1951 Nlivataye (talk) 08:31, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- West Bank just executed a young man a few months ago. That section should be edited. 2601:345:8303:2A20:C154:44BA:2443:5047 (talk) 11:50, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- A young man was executed for homosexuality a few months ago (autumn 2024). 2601:345:8303:2A20:C154:44BA:2443:5047 (talk) 11:53, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
- The current version mentions this, West Bank has Jordanian law which makes homosexuality legal, Gaza has its own penal code penalizes homosexuals with jail, fines, and even death.194.247.60.2 (talk)
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Kuwait
[edit]for law 191, the victim is under power or control by the person who does immoral actions of shame the sentence can be up to life in prison118.107.220.52 (talk) 23:32, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
Homosexuality punishable by death in West Bank
[edit]I’m unsure if I’m missing a definition by mentioning the West Bank, but homosexuality results in the death penalty in the West Bank. A young man was executed in the autumn of 2024. 2601:345:8303:2A20:C154:44BA:2443:5047 (talk) 11:48, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
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