Talk:LGBTQ
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LGBTQIA+ is more inclusive than LGBTQ
[edit]LGBTQIA+ stands for Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer/Questioning, Intersex, and Asexual/Aromantic/Agender. It is more inclusive because it covers more topics than just LGBTQ. The "+" takes into account for every subcatergory which is just as important. It makes much more sense to change it to be more inclusive! Thank you! Hhard157 (talk) 17:59, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- We considered this in the Requested Move & Move Review; it was not the preferred consensus option at the time. lizthegrey (talk) 18:20, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- That's the problem. Eventually the grouping becomes meaningless and all you're left with is what we would categorize as "alternative lifestyles". It just dilutes it. Inclusivity is not in and of itself a virtue. 65.194.76.18 (talk) 01:04, 21 February 2025 (UTC)
Why the Italic?
[edit]Why LGBTQ is in italic? And if there's a reason for it, shouldn't all pages with LGBTQ on it (example LGBTQ history, LGBTQ community) have LGBTQ in italic? 201.92.11.147 (talk) 19:23, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]I feel like this needs a section about what each of the diffrent terms such as Queer. Like just a quick summury of it for each of them. And also I thought the T ws for Therian. Is it? If yes why was therian not mentioned? ThErE mAy Be SpElLiNg MiStAkEs! DUCK.IN.A.LEMONADE.STAND (talk) 17:28, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- This article is about the acronym. Readers can learn the definitions of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer by following the links in the lead. Readers may also be served by the link to List of LGBTQ acronyms which currently heads the "Variants" section.
- Transspecies identities like otherkin and therian are not traditionally considered part of the "LGBTQ+" umbrella, because they are not gender or sexual identities (i.e., one can have such an identity while also being cisgender and heterosexual). The T in LGBTQ has consistently stood for "transgender", as we played a substantial part of the Stonewall riots and gay liberation movement circa 1970s. –RoxySaunders 🏳️⚧️ (talk • stalk) 18:00, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- Okay, thank you so much for this information, I had just been recently told about therians and otherkin being a part of that community so I thought this was wrong. Deeply sorry about this mistake and a big thanks. DUCK.IN.A.LEMONADE.STAND (talk) 15:34, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
Broad-concept article
[edit]"LGBTQ" is meant to be about only the initialism (WP:WAW), not the broader concept referred to by the term. However, previous talk discussions indicate this nunance is lost on many editors, not to mention casual readers. So, I've created a Draft:Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer as a broad concept article (BCA). It discusses not only the term itself, but also summarizes the other main articles: history, culture, and community. It's all done in a summary style, using automatic excerpts, so there's minimal content duplication. Without the proposed BCA, there's only an Outline of LGBTQ topics, which is not meant to contain much prose, and a long list of hatnotes in LGBTQ, which borders on violating WP:RELATED. fgnievinski (talk) 15:55, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- From the title, Draft:Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, and queer sounds like it would be an article which (arbitrarily) explains those five identities, instead of the subtopics LGBTQ history etc.. If we go forward with a BCA for this, the title should be LGBTQ and the article about the acronym should be disambiguated. –RoxySaunders 🏳️⚧️ (talk • stalk) 16:14, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- I agree that a broad concept article is needed. I would suggest LGBTQ people as the appropriate title, which would align with the structure of geographically based BCAs like LGBTQ people in Mexico, which similarly serve as the overview of articles on the culture, rights, and history of LGBTQ people.--Trystan (talk) 16:24, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
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