Talk:Kuakini
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Governor
[edit]Why is it he listed as a governor of hawaii the state when he was the royal governor of the island of hawaii in the Hawaiian Kingdom. If he is the second royal governor who was the first ?John Young?. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.43.99 (talk) 21:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
I think the original article confused the kingdom of Hawaii with the island. Also is probably cnfusing the two Kailuas. The palace is in Kona, so I will be looking into this. W Nowicki (talk) 19:20, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Removed from US Governor project, since he was not. Off by 80 years. W Nowicki (talk) 00:50, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Name
[edit]I move his aritlce title to Kuakini because his brother and his sisters are all under there Hawaiian names and not their Western names.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:56, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Kaluaikonahale name and broken link
[edit]Rather than attempt to fix the broken links, I'll just provide the new links for that site that was cited because I know the owner now doesnʻt want just anyone to have access to his database. But since I read through the old Hawaiian newspapers and have done so for over a decade, I will post the actual links below. This way, others could fix it & make any necessary changes. Or better yet, maybe find more valuable information that would help enrich all these other pages.
From Ka Nupepea Kuokoa dated March 16, 1867: http://nupepa.org/gsdl2.5/cgi-bin/nupepa?e=d-0nupepa--00-0-0--010---4----text---0-1l--1haw-Zz-1---20-about---00031-0000utfZz-8-00&a=d&cl=CL1.24.7&d=HASH41e84c5d9e8ded7314a3a1&gg=prev
8th paragraph under the section "Ka Moolelo o Kamehameha I., na S.M. Kamakau, Helu 12" He 'ohana nui 'o Ka'ahumanu mā, mai loko mai o Nāmāhana--ʻo Kaʻahumanu, ʻo Kaheiheimālia i kapa hou ʻia iho hoʻi ʻo Hoapiliwahine, ʻo Kahekili i kapa hou ʻia iho ʻo Keʻeaumoku, ʻo Kaluaikonahale i kapa hou ʻia iho ʻo Kuakini, ʻo Kekuaipiʻia i kapa hou ʻia ʻo Nāmāhana.
The family of Kaahumanu is large, from Namahana (their mom) comes Kaahumanu, Kaheiheimalia, also known as Hoapiliwahine, Kahekili also known as Keeaumoku, Kaluaikonahale, also known as Kuakini, and Kekuaipiia also known as Namahana.
and also from Ka Nupepa Kuokoa dated April 13, 1867: http://nupepa.org/gsdl2.5/cgi-bin/nupepa?e=d-0nupepa--00-0-0--010---4----text---0-1l--1haw-Zz-1---20-about-kaluaikonahale--00031-0000utfZz-8-00&a=d&cl=CL1.24.7&d=HASH2de14072eea74ccf0c919d&gg=prev
10th paragraph under the section "Ka Moolelo o Kamehameha I., na S.M. Kamakau, Helu 23" (in part) Ua kapa ʻia ka inoa o kekahi aliʻi, ke keiki a Keʻeaumoku me Nāmāhana, ke aliʻi kiaʻāina o Hawaiʻi, ʻo Kaluaikonahale, [no] ka lua o Kalola.
A chief, who was the son of Keeaumoku & Namahana, the gov. of Hawai'i, was called Kaluaikonahale, after the (burial) pit of Kalola,
In case those donʻt like to refer to papers as a source, although it's actually more accurate to use, and prefer the book instead, try Ke Kumu Aupuni by Samuel M. Kamakau. Specifically, pages 79 & 103. And if you need to refer to the English, try Kamakau's Ruling Chiefs of Hawai'i, pages 127 & 149.
Also regarding his specific birthplace:
Kaluaikonahale Kuakini was born in 1791 at Kahaluu on Hawaii and was called Kaluaikonahale after the grave of Kalola at Kalamaula on Molokai. When Kuakini (his maternal half-brother) died of cholera at the beach of Waialae, Kaluaikonahale's name was changed to Kuakini. This name was for the multitude of supporting chiefs of Kamehamehanui, son of Kekaulike. [Ruling Chiefs of Hawaii - S.M. Kamakau; pg. 388]--Mamoahina (talk) 09:30, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
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