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Who are Konkani Muslims? Geographically and ethnically konkani Muslims belong from the konkan coast of Maharashtra. Adding Nawayaths to the list of Notable Konkani Muslims makes no sense. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Imrangangru (talk • contribs) 15:23, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled

Under the section on Urdu Language, there is a typo; Sheikh AbdusSamad Sharaf udDin passed away in 1996, not 1906. His life dates should read 1901-1996.

Filfilksq (talk) 07:20, 8 August 2010 (UTC) Kate[reply]

Konkani History Dump

I have removed the entire dump of Konkani history website. The content is better of as an external reference Khalil Sawant 19:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the sub article on Makhdoom Mahimi There is a link on the page to the main article on Makhdoom Mahimi And I think that should suffice Khalil Sawant 09:30, 28 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Konkani Wikipedia

Dear Konknni friends,

Konkani Wikipedia has been started and been in test stage since August 2006.

Kindly contribute towards the Konkani wikipedia. We intend to make it a multiscript

Wikipeida. At least tri-script with Roman ,Devanangiri and Kannada scripts since these are the most popular ones.

We would like to get more articles/templates in place. We also need volunteers to do the thankless and boring job of transliterating it to different scripts .

As of now only two members are making active contributions. The more the merrier. Your contribution is vital to its success.

The url is given below:

http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Konkani_Wikipedia

Dev boro dees deum! -Deepak D'Souza 05:37, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Konkani Muslim

Created a category for Konkani Muslims . Please add [[Category:Konkani Muslim]] to relevant articles. categorization will help a reader to access all similarly grouped articles from a single page.

http://wiki.riteme.site/wiki/Category:Konkani_Muslim

--Deepak D'Souza (talk • contribs) 12:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Surprisingly there is no reference about Janab Abdul Hameed Bubere who is prominent editor of monthly urdu magazine SUBH-E-UMMID . Please do some research work for his valuable cotribution towards familiarising URDU among Kokani community. His younger son Mr. Abdus Sami Bubere do tried his level best to keep tradition of his father. From: Mukri Mustahsin Ahmed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.77.203.38 (talk) 07:19, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Close paraphrasing. How?

"They are an endogamous group and marriage between children of brothers and sisters is permissible." Has been replaced by "cousin marriage is permitted", by this edit.[1] The reasons given are (1) permissible ≠ allowed. (Free dictionary says permissible = permitted = allowable.[2]) (2) "Close paraphrasing": may we know how?. I would like my version back as the term cousin marriage is vague whereas "marriage between children of brothers and sisters" is exact, it means that if A and B are children of an identical set of biological parents, in this case it is permissible for the biological children of A and B to marry each other. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 17:45, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit warring

@Imrangangru and Porus D'Canara:, please discuss your differences here instead of WP:edit warring. Any further edit warring will get both of you blocked. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 17:51, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Who are Konkani Muslims? Geographically and ethnically konkani Muslims belong from the konkan coast of Maharashtra. Adding Nawayaths to the list of Notable Konkani Muslims makes no sense. Imrangangru (talk) 15:46, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The following is an extract from Dr. Omar Khalidi's Essayv Which is very 2nd reference of this page. It is clear from this Extract that the group that came to Western coast were know as Nawayaths. The Nawayaths were divided into three groups. The Muslims from bhatkal region were and still are known as Nawayaths, while Nawayaths from the kokan region of Maharashtra came to be known as Kokni Muslims. So Nawayaths is a broader term from which three communities were formed. The following extract; ' The various Muslim communities that sprang up on the Konkan coast of India in the seventh century share three common characteristics: the first is a common origin in the Arabian Peninsula and the Persian Gulf region, second is a common adherence to the Shafi’i madhab, or school of Islamic law, (founded by Imam Shafii, d. 819) and finally the common descent from Arab mariners and merchants. Among these communities at least three groups came to be called Nawayats. The name appears in a variety of forms in Arabic, Urdu and English, including Nait, Naiti spelled with the letters "ta" or "te". The mariners among the Arabs and Persians of the time were no doubt called Na-Khuda, a combination of Naav (Boat) and Khuda (Lord), both words of Old Persian. The composite word thus means "Boat-Lord".

it is clear that there are three groups of Muslims who are descended from the Arab immigrants and their progeny and dispersed to various parts of western and southern India. The first group of Nawayats are those who live predominantly in the town of Bhatkal, in North Kanara district in the southern state of Karnataka. The second group of Nawayats are those who live, among other places, in Chennai (Madras) and Hyderabad. The Chennai and Hyderabad Nawayats are closely linked with ties of kinship and intermarriage. According to the Gazetteer of the Bombay City and Island "the Muslims of the coast of Bombay State now styled Konkanis were formerly known as Naitias or Navayats Our concern heretofore is with the third group of historical Nawayats who were initially called Nawayat but are now known as Konkani Muslims inhabiting the region of Konkan as described earlier. Imrangangru (talk) 13:32, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]